[E-trademarks] Virtual mailbox address
Carl Oppedahl
carl at oppedahl.com
Tue Feb 6 12:31:40 EST 2024
That dog won't hunt.
To be able to become a commercial mail receiving agency, you have to
fill out a form and become accredited with the USPS as a provider of
CMRA services. At which point you have to say what address you are
using to receive the mail on behalf of others. At which point anybody
who does a lookup for the zip code for that address will see a "Y" in
the CMRA field. And then the Trademark Office will figure out that the
residential apartment is being used as a mail drop, and you are back
looking at an Office Action refusing registration because the applicant
failed to reveal where they sleep at night.
On 2/6/2024 10:21 AM, Richrd Straussman via E-trademarks wrote:
> I am stunned that no commercial mail forwarding business has bought a
> residential apartment above/near their location so that people can
> have a fictitious residential address people to use for mail forwarding.
>
> On 2/6/2024 12:00 PM, Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks wrote:
>> I'm going to start doing that too, or just ask the client to confirm
>> when we provide the proposed details for an application.
>>
>> But isn't it tiresome that as they are taking 9-10 months to get to
>> applications they are wasting time searching for whether the client
>> used a mail drop address. Roll On federal Circuit and Strike this down!!
>>
>> *Janet F. Satterthwaite*|Partner/ Chair, Trademark Practice|Potomac
>> Law Group, PLLC
>>
>> 1717 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Suite 1025
>>
>> Washington, D.C. 20006
>>
>> 202-486-1578
>>
>> jsatterthwaite at potomaclaw.com|www.potomaclaw.com
>> <https://www.potomaclaw.com>
>>
>>
>> https://www.potomaclaw.com/professionals-janet-f-satterthwaite
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>> *From:* Dineen Wasylik <dineen at wasylik.net>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 6, 2024 11:57 AM
>> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
>> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Cc:* Janet Satterthwaite <jsatterthwaite at potomaclaw.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] Virtual mailbox address
>>
>> *WARNING:* External email, do not click on links or open attachments
>> unless you recognize the sender’s full email address and expect the
>> attachments.
>>
>> I've added to my procedures that we Google Map the address the client
>> gives/found in the Corporate database so that we can avoid that. The
>> examiners are definitely doing so.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:56 AM Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks
>> <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just got a refusal for an address which turned our to be a UPS
>> store. (client never mentioned that.)
>>
>> *Janet F. Satterthwaite*|Partner/ Chair, Trademark
>> Practice|Potomac Law Group, PLLC
>>
>> 1717 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Suite 1025
>>
>> Washington, D.C. 20006
>>
>> 202-486-1578
>>
>> jsatterthwaite at potomaclaw.com|www.potomaclaw.com
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.potomaclaw.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=BD_ODyCnGyM4QYkJS4ogIYzIigAHSpBLLoEgzCd9OOE&m=22V1RQeWXihSZKhwLLBKYs1hXKSQgdKU3yhc0Nuc10gmjvL27ZlMd1IPh8k7RyMo&s=uu5cHS8UABRWDBu-roRaTtfvH6IRO8W6Pnfa9dyefqU&e=>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.potomaclaw.com/professionals-janet-f-satterthwaite
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.potomaclaw.com_professionals-2Djanet-2Df-2Dsatterthwaite&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=BD_ODyCnGyM4QYkJS4ogIYzIigAHSpBLLoEgzCd9OOE&m=22V1RQeWXihSZKhwLLBKYs1hXKSQgdKU3yhc0Nuc10gmjvL27ZlMd1IPh8k7RyMo&s=icd2aEoZjxB0JW1BhFSw3Ld6zW7zSOK9Sol064RXm24&e=>
>>
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>> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> on
>> behalf of Ken Liu via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 6, 2024 11:25 AM
>> *To:* E-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com
>> <E-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Cc:* Ken Liu <kel at gg-law.com>
>> *Subject:* [E-trademarks] Virtual mailbox address
>>
>> *WARNING:* External email, do not click on links or open
>> attachments unless you recognize the sender’s full email address
>> and expect the attachments.
>>
>> Does the USPTO accept a commercial virtual mailbox address (not a
>> PO Box) as a domicile address ("where you sleep at night")?
>>
>> Sorry if this has been asked before. I thought there was a way to
>> search archives of all past listserv messages, but it appears the
>> archive only goes back four months, is that right?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> Kenneth E. Liu
>>
>> IP/Nonprofit Law
>>
>> Gammon & Grange, P.C.
>>
>> 1945 Old Gallows Rd., Suite 650
>>
>> Tysons, VA 22182
>>
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