[E-trademarks] [EXT] Re: Trademark Mill

Alex Butterman abutterman at dbllawyers.com
Thu Feb 29 23:44:57 EST 2024


I often see incomplete or mixed correspondence addresses in TSDR after an attorney attempts to change the correspondence address, including after I file a CAR, and I am not precisely clear why. I think it has to do with the attorney attempting to change the correspondence address with the CAR form without filing a Request for Withdrawal or without the applicant signing the new CAR and revoking all prior representation.

And I suspect that the reason the “mill” referred you to the applicant right away is because their original representation of the applicant was “partial representation” that terminated with the issuance of the registration but they never filed a withdrawal of attorney when the registration issued. They probably won’t represent the applicant in a pre-litigation matter because it is beyond the scope of their strictly prosecution representation agreement.

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From: E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> On Behalf Of Kelcey Patrick-Ferree via E-trademarks
Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 09:34 PM
To: Kevin Grierson <kgrierson at cm.law>
Cc: Kelcey Patrick-Ferree <kpf at patrickferreelaw.com>; For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
Subject: [EXT] Re: [E-trademarks] Trademark Mill

I do have contact information for the applicant, who is now the primary contact for the application, both physical address and email address. It's just that the secondary email address is the trademark mill's email address, and the docket number is still the trademark mill's docket number.

Warm regards,
Kelcey

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Phone (MN): (612) 568-5573<tel:%28612%29%20568-5573>
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On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 5:52 PM Kevin Grierson <kgrierson at cm.law<mailto:kgrierson at cm.law>> wrote:
Doesn’t a withdrawal petition have to provide proposed contact information for the applicant?  A mailing address if not an email address?

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From: E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com>> On Behalf Of Kelcey Patrick-Ferree via E-trademarks
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Subject: [E-trademarks] Trademark Mill

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Hi all,

I've somehow never had this come up before. I have a client who is concerned about an application filed by a Legalzoom-type trademark mill. Since the mill employee is an attorney and was listed as the attorney of record, I sent a letter about the concerning application to the mill employee. The mill employee promptly withdrew as attorney of record for the application and asked me to contact the applicant directly.

But the mill's email address is still listed as a secondary email address for contacting the now-technically-unrepresented applicant, and the "docket number" code hasn't changed.

Seems like they're trying to be the attorney of record without actually being the attorney of record/representing the applicant. Anyone ever seen this before?

Warm regards,
Kelcey

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