[E-trademarks] Trademark Center pro se?

[Crane, Susan]

Or because it is in Beta, they have only opened it up to attorneys?

Susan L. Crane
Group Vice President, Legal
Intellectual Property, Brands & Marketing

Wyndham Hotels & Resorts, Inc.
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From: E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> On Behalf Of Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2024 3:45 PM
To: For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
Cc: Carl Oppedahl <carl at oppedahl.com>
Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Trademark Center pro se?


I wonder if somewhere in MyUSPTO it somehow knows I am an attorney, and then maybe once Trademark Center sees that I am logged in as an attorney, it eliminates the pro se click path.

And if on the other hand the person who logs in at MyUSPTO is not known to the system to be an attorney, maybe then it permits a pro se click path.

I don't know any of this for real.  I am just trying to guess about it.
On 7/17/2024 1:37 PM, Annette Heller via E-trademarks wrote:
Doesn't everyone that is going to file need to register with Trademark Office in order to access the forms?  Wasn't that the reason for registration in order to avoid Chinese applicants from overloading the system?

Annette


Annette P. Heller
Trademark/Copyright Attorney
TM Law & Associates
400 Chesterfield Center Ste 400
Chesterfield [St Louis] MO 63017

www.TrademarkAtty.com<http://www.trademarkatty.com/>

314-469-2610 Fax 314-469-4850

In a message dated 7/17/2024 1:15:37 PM Central Daylight Time, e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> writes:


A few days ago, for the very first time, I clicked around in Trademark Center.  This was in a shared desktop situation where I was helping somebody click around in it.  The person has a plan of filing pro se a few days from now.  So our goal was to click around in Trademark Center together and see what the workflow is like.

I happened to be already logged in to MyUSPTO at the time.  And I clicked around to commence use of Trademark Center.   I was sharing my screen with the would-be future pro se filer.

What jumped out at me was, it absolutely refused to allow the session to move forward pro se.  It demanded that an attorney be identified for the to-be-filed application.

Maybe others have more experience with Trademark Center.  Is there a way to use Trademark Center pro se?

Is it simply that I had already been logged in at MyUSPTO?  That was what made it impossible to proceed pro se?
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