[E-trademarks] FW: Proposed trademark fees changes for fiscal year 2025, and translation requirement

Tue Mar 26 12:47:47 EDT 2024

Also, is there anything preventing the USPTO from changing the ID manual to
remove open-ended "fill in the blank" language, *e.g.*, "Software as a
service (SAAS) services featuring software for [fill in the function and
field]"?  I'm not familiar with any obligations associated with the Nice
Agreement.

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On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 12:41 PM Heather Vargas via E-trademarks <
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> But you never will because it will cost more than $100 to make the
> argument that may or may not work.
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Sam Castree via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2024 12:33 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Sam Castree <sam at castreelaw.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] FW: Proposed trademark fees changes for
> fiscal year 2025, and translation requirement
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> There is room to argue.  You just have to convince the examiner to change
> her mind, is all...
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> Cheers,
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> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 10:51 AM Laura A. Genovese via E-trademarks <
> e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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> I am wondering how people feel about #14, the requirement to translate
> non-English wording. What if the client has a made-up word, but the
> Examiner puts it into Google translate and sees that in some language, what
> is believed to be a made-up word might be a real word. Is there any room to
> argue that the mark is a made-up word, or acronym? Or must we just pay the
> surcharge?
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Gordon, Michael via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2024 4:32 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Gordon, Michael <Michael.Gordon at cfraresearch.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] FW: Proposed trademark fees changes for
> fiscal year 2025
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> The NPRM lists 20 elements that are required for a “base application,” and
> failure to provide these would trigger the $100 fee.
>
> (1) The applicant’s name and domicile address;
>
> (2) The applicant’s legal entity;
>
> (3) The citizenship of each individual applicant, or the state or country
> of incorporation or organization of each juristic applicant; (4) If the
> applicant is a domestic partnership, the names and citizenship of the
> general partners, or if the applicant is a domestic joint venture, the
> names and citizenship of the active members of the joint venture;
>
> (5) If the applicant is a sole proprietorship, the state of organization
> of the sole proprietorship and the name and citizenship of the sole
> proprietor;
>
> (6) One or more bases for filing that satisfy all the requirements of §
> 2.34. If more than one basis is set forth, the applicant must comply with
> the requirements of § 2.34 for each asserted basis;
>
> (7) If the application contains goods and/or services in more than one
> class, compliance with § 2.86;
>
> (8) A filing fee for each class of goods and/or services, as required by §
> 2.6(a)(1)(ii) or (iii);
>
> (9) A verified statement that meets the requirements of § 2.33, dated and
> signed by a person properly authorized to sign on behalf of the owner
> pursuant to § 2.193(e)(1);
>
> (10) If the applicant does not claim standard characters, the applicant
> must attach a digitized image of the mark. If the mark includes color, the
> drawing must show the mark in color;
>
> (11) If the mark is in standard characters, a mark comprised only of
> characters in the Office's standard character set, typed in the appropriate
> field of the application;
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> (12) If the mark includes color, a statement naming the color(s) and
> describing where the color(s) appears on the mark, and a claim that the
> color(s) is a feature of the mark;
>
> (13) If the mark is not in standard characters, a description of the mark;
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> (14) If the mark includes non-English wording, an English translation of
> that wording;
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> (15) If the mark includes non-Latin characters, a transliteration of those
> characters;
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> (16) If the mark includes an individual’s name or likeness, either (i) a
> statement that identifies the living individual whose name or likeness the
> mark comprises and written consent of the individual, or (ii) a statement
> that the name or likeness does not identify a living individual (see
> section 2(c) of the Act);
>
> (17) If the applicant owns one or more registrations for the same mark,
> and the owner(s) last listed in Office records of the prior registration(s)
> for the same mark differs from the owner(s) listed in the application, a
> claim of ownership of the registration(s) identified by the registration
> number(s), pursuant to § 2.36;
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> (18) If the application is a concurrent use application, compliance with §
> 2.42;
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> (19) An applicant whose domicile is not located within the United States
> or its territories must designate an attorney as the applicant’s
> representative, pursuant to § 2.11(a), and include the attorney’s name,
> postal address, email address, and bar information; and
>
> (20) Correctly classified goods and/or services, with an identification of
> goods and/or services from the Office's Acceptable Identification of Goods
> and Services Manual within the electronic form.
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>
>
> Want to petition to keep the domicile address out of the record? $100 fee,
> plus the petition fee. Client LLC representative enters “owner” instead of
> “member” on the signature line? $100 fee, depending on the examiner. (TMEP
> § 611.06(g) says that “owner” should be okay, but sometimes they decide
> otherwise.) Description of the mark not exact enough for the examiner? $100
> fee. Miss a prior registration when citing prior relevant registrations?
> $100 fee. I also wonder if you can respond to the office action calling for
> the $100 fee to argue against the $100 fee or if the only way to argue
> against it would be a petition to the director…for a $400 fee.
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Ronni Jillions via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2024 4:06 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
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> *Cc:* Ronni Jillions <RSJillions at browdyneimark.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] FW: Proposed trademark fees changes for
> fiscal year 2025
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> I wonder what the USPTO will consider “insufficient information”.  Is that
> going to be imposed when in a first action, the examiner decides the
> description needs to be amended?
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> Best regards,
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> Ronni
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Tim Ackermann via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2024 3:55 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
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> *Cc:* Tim Ackermann <tim at ackermannlaw.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] FW: Proposed trademark fees changes for
> fiscal year 2025
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> Here we go: merge TEAS/TEAS+, but use the higher $350/class rate. Then add
> add'l fees on top:
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> TMIDM does not contain appropriate goods/services for your client? You pay
> $200!
>
> Office decides you didn't supply "sufficient" information? You pay $100!
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> On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 2:22 PM Richard Morris via E-trademarks <
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> *Date: *Monday, March 25, 2024 at 3:00 PM
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> *Subject: *Proposed trademark fees changes for fiscal year 2025
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> we are proposing certain adjustments necessary to efficiently and
> effectively administer the U.S. trademark system. These fees provide our
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