[E-trademarks] Recent Registration Date Processing Change?

[Ken Boone]

I found the spreadsheet error, namely that the exported list of 191 trademarks included 8 duplicate serial numbers (meaning 8 serial number records were missing).  Here's the error report I provided via the Feedback feature of TM Search.

I performed the search RD:[* TO 20240505] NOT RN:*, retrieving 191 hits.
191 results for RD:[* TO 20240505] NOT RN:*
I then exported the first 500 hits.
I then copied the 191 serial numbers from the exported Excel file and constructed the following search of those serial numbers, retrieving only 183 hits.
183 results for SN:( 98121865 97557837 97745037 97816549 97820930 97822987 97825718 97825858 97829900 97829940 97800932 97327662 98098944 98102766 97886264 97891606 97894535 97061529 97083215 97685760 97788115 98045864 98052897 98064476 98069229 98085373 98094590 97621603 97649401 97977636 97842256 97846700 97851494 97863005 90232792 97804340 97810205 97816355 97816362 97838247 97494725 97780060 98031480 98032409 98037377 98046034 98063900 98063903 98067023 98077350 98085175 98088140 98093694 90653441 97049374 97701641 97746447 97771585 97820001 97828901 97831915 97843298 97854963 97866043 97868631 97883187 97167640 97388254 97404714 97449905 97590913 97599489 97228585 97809670 97809713 97814404 97816942 97823825 97825660 97827505 97829886 97496210 97932042 97791452 98079985 98098071 97669944 98132035 97977786 98003385 97496216 97749289 97807352 97814474 97820904 97825866 79288799 97752967 97751493 97825581 98025596 98042100 97842832 98144379 97752967 97749289 97807352 97814474 97820904 97825866 90640969 97623800 97708582 97708817 97208670 97355964 97398117 97751493 97825581 97800936 98127802 97807380 97807431 97807899 97809684 97822971 97676080 79359796 97689682 97708560 98026399 98050928 98063560 98092783 97903550 97526578 97646960 97659067 97928011 97929341 97816372 97827800 98019639 98316551 98316565 97203965 97406199 97418465 97572306 97343390 97385434 98118194 97807309 97807412 97809368 97809690 97820872 97820891 97822914 97831948 97417990 90521117 79339082 98178627 97591295 97689489 97739688 97741560 97771547 98083140 98084322 98099953 97892967 97976546 98012232 98039812 98048064 98063718 98068335 97538682 97850150 97862698 97874052 97409456 97452167 97814086 97828536 90849891 97152615 97268749 88367785 )
I then opened another tab on the Excel file and copied the Registration Date and Serial Numbers to that tab.  I then sorted that tab by Serial Number, then checked for duplicate serial numbers, finding the following 8 serial numbers were duplicated in that exported Excel file.
#
Dupes
1
97749289
2
97751493
3
97752967
4
97807352
5
97814474
6
97820904
7
97825581
8
97825866

Obviously, the hit list from my initial search should NOT include any duplicate serial numbers.

Our  TM Search Struggles Continue,
Ken Boone
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Cc: Ken Boone <boondogles at hotmail.com>
Subject: [E-trademarks] Recent Registration Date Processing Change?

I tried to do a quick check of registrations issued last Tuesday.

The search RD:20240430 retrieves 7,212 trademarks.  I assumed each would have a registration number.

The search RD:20240430 AND RN:* only retrieves 7,080 trademarks.  Same for the search RD:20240430 AND SA:registered.

Alternatively, the search RD:20240430 NOT RN:* retrieves 132 trademarks.  Same for the search RD:20240430 AND SA:review.  Same for the search RD:20240430 AND RG:supplemental.  The Trademark Search status LIVE PENDING is reported for these 132 trademarks, while the TSDR has Review prior to publication completed as the status. (Well, the few I checked.)

These unusual occurrences (registration date entries without corresponding registration numbers) got me looking for other such occurrences.  The search RD:[* TO 20240505] NOT RN:* retrieves 191 trademarks.  That is, for registration dates up to today, 191 trademarks have a registration date entry but do NOT include a registration number.  Conveniently, that's a small enough count to export all 191 trademarks, and I have summarized those 191 trademarks by registration date (all calendar year 2024) in the following table.

Reg. Date
Principal Register
Supplemental Register
Total
02/20/24
5
0
5
03/19/24
17
1
18
03/26/24
41
0
41
04/30/24
0
127
127
Grand Total
63
128
191

(Okay, something is wrong with my summary, as I only list 127 instead of 132 trademarks for 04/30/24.  Ooops.)

Is this an expected behavior - that the USPTO would load a registration date for a trademark record without a registration number?  Do you suppose this behavior is because the USPTO is maintaining a legacy system, Trademark Reporting And Monitoring (TRAM), as well as an updated one, and the issue will resolve when we retire TRAM?  Thoughts?

Wait.  I observed a similar phenomenon with the published for opposition date field.

The search PO:20240430 retrieves 10,864 trademarks.  I assumed all those trademarks were published for opposition last Tuesday.  Not so fast.  The search PO:20240430 AND SA:published only retrieves 10,734 trademarks.  Alternatively, the search PO:20240430 AND SA:review retrieves 108 trademarks, where TSDR has the status Review prior to publication completed for the trademarks I checked.  (Expanding the date range via the search PO:[* TO 20240430] AND SA:review retrieves 11,324 trademarks {all live} with published for opposition date entries that have passed and the term review in the SA - Status field, though since that field is NOT displayed on TM Search ...) Again, is this the behavior that you expected for the published for opposition field?  Thoughts?

Happy Trademarking,
Ken Boone
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