[E-trademarks] Use in Commerce for a service when underlying product was returned and refunded

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Date: Wednesday, 23 April 2025 at 4:27 pm
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Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Use in Commerce for a service when underlying product was returned and refunded
If the original transaction was a legitimate arms length transaction, it was use in commerce.  I do not think that the return has anything to do with this issue.

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Subject: [E-trademarks] Use in Commerce for a service when underlying product was returned and refunded

Can an applicant use the date of first use in commerce for a service, where the service was performed but the underlying product was later returned and refunded?

For example, say applicant provides design services. Customer orders a custom light fixture. The light is delivered and paid for (date of first use in commerce), but then is later returned to the designer and the customer is refunded.

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