[E-trademarks] Licensing of Intellectual Property Rights?

[Gerry J. Elman]

In the ancient past, the USPTO deemed licensing of IP to include licensing of the Applicant's IP to others.  Then the wind shifted, and the USPTO took the position that the "service" of IP licensing includes only doing it for another company's IP.

-Gerry Elman
Elman IP
Denton, Texas



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From: Edward Timberlake via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
Date: 2/25/25 3:43 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: "For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice." <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
Cc: Edward Timberlake <ed at timberlakelaw.com>
Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Licensing of Intellectual Property Rights?

Maybe TMEP 1301.01(a) - Criteria for Determining What Constitutes a Service would have some helpful language?

https://tmep.uspto.gov/RDMS/TMEP/current#/current/TMEP-1300d1e36.html


Sincerely,

Ed Timberlake
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On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 4:26 PM Montgomery, Alexander P. via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:
Question for the brain trust:

If your client uses its mark for X services, and also licenses its mark to others so that those others can provide X services (not a franchise), do you include in an application for the mark:


•       X services; AND

•       (Class 45) Licensing of intellectual property

or only “X services”?

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