[E-trademarks] 2025 Trademark Fee Change Coincidence?

Ken Boone boondogles at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 9 16:14:59 UTC 2025


>> The correspondent email is Lakshmi.asuri at uspto.gov<mailto:Lakshmi.asuri at uspto.gov> – this is clearly a test filing of some kind or just garbage.

A test case?  Oh, like 98305614? I contacted the USPTO about that test case, recommending that they revise the status to informal application.  Didn't quite work out that way.  They deleted 98305614 from TSDR, plus they deleted the drawing and wordmark from TM Search, but 98305614 still appears on TM Search as a live pending trademark with multiple other text fields on TM Search.

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Below is my 7 February 2024 alert to the USPTO suggesting that 98305614 be declared informal (dead application), just one of 67 live/dead mismatches on TM Search versus TSDR that the USPTO promised would be resolved with the deployment of the new version of TRAM in 2024, except my calendar says it's 2025 now and those 67 live/dead mismatches are still there.  Could they have constructed TM Search with no administrator option for completely deleting a serial number record like 98305614?  (At least 98305614 had USPTO Test in the wordmark, except that wordmark has since been deleted.)

When I was at the USPTO, there was a rule:  NO TESTING WITH PRODUCTION SYSTEMS, though I witnessed some testing with dead trademark records - that no one would notice tests with the dead records and the records were restored to their prior state when the test was complete.  Well, maybe both 98305614 and 99407680 will both be deleted tomorrow?

Ken Boone

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Subject: 98305614 - T.Markey - USPTO TEST - No Filing Date! No Word Mark Entry!

This pending application looks like a USPTO test that should have been declared an informal application but it still looks like a real application on the search system and TSDR with status New application awaiting assignment to an examining attorney except the raw application is not available on TSDR and the search system does not display a drawing though TSDR does display a drawing.  Does noise like this inspire confidence in USPTO processing? Time for a cleanup on aisle 98305614?

Generated on:     This page was generated by TSDR on 2024-02-07 05:56:06 EST
Mark:       
[cid:a119205b-0e97-4a7f-af8d-76363bc9fa8f]
US Serial Number: 98305614    Application Filing Date:      
Register:   Principal
Mark Type:  Trademark, Service Mark
TM5 Common Status Descriptor: TM5 Common Status image 
LIVE/APPLICATION/Awaiting Examination

The trademark application has been accepted by the Office (has met the minimum filing requirements) and has not yet been assigned to an examiner.

Status:     New application awaiting assignment to an examining attorney. See current trademark processing wait times for more information.
Status Date:      Jan. 25, 2024

Mark Information
Mark Literal Elements:  None
Standard Character Claim:     Yes. The mark consists of standard characters without claim to any particular font style, size, or color.
Mark Drawing Type:      1 - TYPESET WORD(S) /LETTER(S) /NUMBER(S)
Goods and Services
Note:
The following symbols indicate that the registrant/owner has amended the goods/services:
Brackets [..] indicate deleted goods/services;
Double parenthesis ((..)) identify any goods/services not claimed in a Section 15 affidavit of incontestability; and
Asterisks *..* identify additional (new) wording in the goods/services.
For:  Computer hardware
International Class(es):      009 - Primary Class     U.S Class(es):    021, 023, 026, 036, 038
Class Status:     ACTIVE
Basis:      1(b)
For:  Shirt buttons
International Class(es):      026 - Primary Class     U.S Class(es):    037, 039, 040, 042, 050
Class Status:     ACTIVE
Basis:      1(b)
For:  Customizing computer hardware
International Class(es):      037 - Primary Class     U.S Class(es):    100, 103, 106
Class Status:     ACTIVE
Basis:      1(b)
Basis Information (Case Level)
Filed Use:  No    Currently Use:    No
Filed ITU:  No    Currently ITU:    No
Filed 44D:  No    Currently 44D:    No
Filed 44E:  No    Currently 44E:    No
Filed 66A:  No    Currently 66A:    No
Filed No Basis:   No    Currently No Basis:     No
Current Owner(s) Information
Owner Name: Jane Doe
Owner Address:    
207 South Houston St., Suite 159
Dallas, TEXAS UNITED STATES 75202
Legal Entity Type:      INDIVIDUAL  Citizenship:      UNITED STATES
Attorney/Correspondence Information
Attorney of Record
Attorney Name:    John Doe          
Attorney Primary Email Address:     t.m.e.filetestuser2022 at gmail.com    Attorney Email Authorized:    Yes
Correspondent
Correspondent Name/Address:   
John Doe
600 Dulany Street
Alexandria, VIRGINIA UNITED STATES 12345
Correspondent e-mail:   t.m.e.filetestuser2022 at gmail.com    Correspondent e-mail Authorized:    Yes
Domestic Representative - Not Found
Prosecution History
Date  Description Proceeding Number
Dec. 08, 2023     NEW APPLICATION ENTERED 
Dec. 08, 2023     APPLICATION FILING RECEIPT MAILED   
TM Staff and Location Information
TM Staff Information
TM Attorney:            Law Office Assigned:    Not Assigned
File Location
Current Location: NEW APPLICATION PROCESSING    Date in Location: Jan. 25, 2024


Hope this helps,
Ken Boone


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Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] 2025 Trademark Fee Change Coincidence?


The correspondent email is Lakshmi.asuri at uspto.gov<mailto:Lakshmi.asuri at uspto.gov> – this is clearly a test filing of some kind or just garbage.



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Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] 2025 Trademark Fee Change Coincidence?



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On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 8:43 AM Ken Boone via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:

Recall that on December 17th, I predicted that the USPTO would be introducing the new 99 series on January 18th with the implementation of the new fee schedule - that the change in series code would make it easier to recognize trademarks filed under the new fees and rules.



I was wrong.  The first 99-series trademark has already appeared, namely 99407680, the standard character mark ASDFADSF, filed Jan. 08, 2025. Of the 2,544 trademarks filed yesterday as retrieved by the FD:20250108 search, only one is in the 99 series.  The next highest serial number for Jan 8th filings is 98946546, so there was plenty of additional space in the 98 series for this ASDFADSF filing. Go figure.



It is rather odd that 99000001 was NOT the first 99-series serial number and that SN:99* retrieves only one trademark.



The The overall system is currently unavailable. Please try again later. error occurs on TSDR when trying to view any documents for this new filing, and the drawing has yet to appear on TM Search or TSDR, but maybe the raw application and drawing will be available on TSDR later today.  The text from TSDR follows.



Generated on:     This page was generated by TSDR on 2025-01-09 08:50:16 EST

Mark: ASDFADSF    

No Image exists for this case.



US Serial Number: 99407680    Application Filing Date:      Jan. 08, 2025

Filed as Base Application:    Yes   Currently Base Application:   Yes

Register:   Principal

Mark Type:  Trademark

TM5 Common Status Descriptor: TM5 Common Status image 

LIVE/APPLICATION/Awaiting Examination



The trademark application has been accepted by the Office (has met the minimum filing requirements) and has not yet been assigned to an examiner.



Status:     New application awaiting assignment to an examining attorney. See current trademark processing wait times for more information.

Status Date:      Jan. 08, 2025



Mark Information

Mark Literal Elements:  ASDFADSF

Standard Character Claim:     Yes. The mark consists of standard characters without claim to any particular font style, size, or color.

Mark Drawing Type:      4 - STANDARD CHARACTER MARK

Goods and Services

Note:

The following symbols indicate that the registrant/owner has amended the goods/services:

Brackets [..] indicate deleted goods/services;

Double parenthesis ((..)) identify any goods/services not claimed in a Section 15 affidavit of incontestability; and

Asterisks *..* identify additional (new) wording in the goods/services.

For:  Medicated candy

International Class(es):      005 - Primary Class     U.S Class(es):    005, 006, 018, 044, 046, 051, 052

Class Status:     ACTIVE

For:  essential oils Room fragrances Rose oil for cosmetic purposes Rose water for cosmetic purposes Rosewater for cosmetic purposes Rotten stone for polishing Rottenstone for polishing Rouge Rouges Rubber dressings Rust removing preparations Sachet-like eye pillows containing fragrances Saddle soap Sage bundles for burning Sage incense Sage smudge sticks Sand for use as abrasive in sandblasting Sandcloth Sanding apparatus in the form of a glove Sandpaper Sandpaper pads attached to a single finger-fitted sleeve for removing scuff marks from golf balls Scent eliminating laundry detergent for use associated with hunting and outdoor recreation Scented body lotions and creams Scented body spray Scented ceramic stones Scented fabric refresher spray Scented linen sprays Scented linen water Scented oils used to produce aromas when heated Scented patches that may be applied to various surfaces Scented pine cones Scented room sprays Scented sticks for adding scent to a flower bouquet or flowering pot plant Scented wood Scouring liquids Scouring powders Scouring solutions Scrubbing powder Scuffing apparatus in the form of a glove Scuffing pads Sculpting gel Seawater-based skin care preparations for skin renewal Seaweed for cosmetology Seaweed gelatine for laundry use (funori) Self-tanning creams Self-tanning preparations Serums for cosmetic purposes Shampoo bars Shampoo-conditioners Shampoos Shampoos for animals Shampoos for babies Shampoos for pets Shave creams Shaving balm Shaving balms Shaving cream Shaving creams Shaving foam Shaving gel Shaving gels Shaving lotion Shaving lotions Shaving mousse Shaving preparations Shaving soap Shaving soaps Shaving spritz in the nature of a moisturizing solution for shaving Shaving stones being astringents for cosmetic purposes Shining preparations being polish Shining preparations for plant leaves Shoe and boot cream Shoe and boot polish Shoe cream Shoe creams and polishes Shoe polish Shoe polish and creams Shoe polish applicators containin

International Class(es):      014 - Primary Class     U.S Class(es):    002, 027, 028, 050

Class Status:     ACTIVE

For:  essential oils Room fragrances Rose oil for cosmetic purposes Rose water for cosmetic purposes Rosewater for cosmetic purposes Rotten stone for polishing Rottenstone for polishing Rouge Rouges Rubber dressings Rust removing preparations Sachet-like eye pillows containing fragrances Saddle soap Sage bundles for burning Sage incense Sage smudge sticks Sand for use as abrasive in sandblasting Sandcloth Sanding apparatus in the form of a glove Sandpaper Sandpaper pads attached to a single finger-fitted sleeve for removing scuff marks from golf balls Scent eliminating laundry detergent for use associated with hunting and outdoor recreation Scented body lotions and creams Scented body spray Scented ceramic stones Scented fabric refresher spray Scented linen sprays Scented linen water Scented oils used to produce aromas when heated Scented patches that may be applied to various surfaces Scented pine cones Scented room sprays Scented sticks for adding scent to a flower bouquet or flowering pot plant Scented wood Scouring liquids Scouring powders Scouring solutions Scrubbing powder Scuffing apparatus in the form of a glove Scuffing pads Sculpting gel Seawater-based skin care preparations for skin renewal Seaweed for cosmetology Seaweed gelatine for laundry use (funori) Self-tanning creams Self-tanning preparations Serums for cosmetic purposes Shampoo bars Shampoo-conditioners Shampoos Shampoos for animals Shampoos for babies Shampoos for pets Shave creams Shaving balm Shaving balms Shaving cream Shaving creams Shaving foam Shaving gel Shaving gels Shaving lotion Shaving lotions Shaving mousse Shaving preparations Shaving soap Shaving soaps Shaving spritz in the nature of a moisturizing solution for shaving Shaving stones being astringents for cosmetic purposes Shining preparations being polish Shining preparations for plant leaves Shoe and boot cream Shoe and boot polish Shoe cream Shoe creams and polishes Shoe polish Shoe polish and creams Shoe polish applicators containi

International Class(es):      016 - Primary Class     U.S Class(es):    002, 005, 022, 023, 029, 037, 038, 050

Class Status:     ACTIVE

For:  Mexican candy; Candy; Peppermint candy; Candy necklaces; Candy sprinkles; Energy candy; Candy bars

International Class(es):      030 - Primary Class     U.S Class(es):    046

Class Status:     ACTIVE

Basis Information (Case Level)

Current Owner(s) Information

Owner Name: asdfadsf asdfad adfa

Owner Address:    

asdfasdf

22202 AUSTRIA lakshmi.asur

Legal Entity Type:      INDIVIDUAL  Citizenship:      AUSTRIA

Attorney/Correspondence Information

Prosecution History

Date  Description Proceeding Number

Jan. 08, 2025     NEW APPLICATION OFFICE SUPPLIED DATA ENTERED    

Jan. 08, 2025     NEW APPLICATION ENTERED 

TM Staff and Location Information

TM Staff Information

TM Attorney:            Law Office Assigned:    Not Assigned

File Location

Current Location: Not Found   Date in Location: Jan. 09, 2025





Happy Trademarking,

Ken Boone



PS - Today, the wordmark for 98595378 has been corrected from TENT ˆ WOMEN to TENT^WOMEN using only valid standard characters.  Well, I'm celebrating the correction of this standard character mark.

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Having just used the new Beta application format for a few filings today, I think they should be paying us for this debacle of form.  I’ve been using it for a couple of months with little to no problems – even though the format is ridiculous and hard to review.  Today, two applications went through just fine.  The third one – not so much.  Twice it didn’t capture all the information (the information is on my “preview” copy but not on the emailed copy), I tried again, and the copy emailed to me was completely blank, and don’t get me started on the issues with the goods and services. Why does the USPTO like to change the order of the description?  You make a simple change, and it moves the phrase to the bottom of the list.  This just makes it harder to review.  If you need to make changes after you have emailed a draft to yourself, God be with you.  Warning:  there are things you cannot change after you have emailed a draft – like a matter number.  Why?  Oh why?  What a nightmare.  Yes, I’m frustrated.



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Your guess about the timing makes sense, but I suspect that there will be some uptick in filings in the next few weeks as TM practitioners encourage their clients to file their applications prior to the price increases (and accompanying uncertainty about surcharges).   So we could well run out of 98s before the changeover.







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Subject: [E-trademarks] 2025 Trademark Fee Change Coincidence?



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Besides the new 2025 trademark fees (and rules), what other change for trademarks will likely occur on January 18th?



Well, checking the remaining unused serial numbers in the 98 series for new TEAS applications …



The highest TEAS serial number for 12/16/24 is 98906253.



Looking back 7 weeks, the highest TEAS serial number for 11/01/24 is 98836906.



Subtracting 98836906 from 98906253, for that 42-day period, new TEAS applications exhausted a range of 69,347 consecutive serial numbers, an average of 1651 serial numbers per day.



Since serial numbers 98975000 and above are reserved for divisional applications, only 68,746 serial numbers remain for new TEAS applications in the 98 series before that series is exhausted and a new series will be needed.



Dividing, 68,746 serial numbers ÷ 1651 serial numbers per day = 41 days.  That is, the 98 series will be exhausted about 41 days after December 16th (around January 26th), assuming the rate of new TEAS applications for the last 7 weeks doesn't vary too much in the next 7 weeks.



So, as the new 2025 trademark fees begin January 18th, just about a week before the 98 series is projected to be exhausted, I'm guessing that TEAS will begin using a new series, presumably the 99 series, to make it easier to recognize TEAS applications filed under the new 2025 rules/fees (the 99's) versus the current rules/fees (the 98's).  That's just my guess.



Does this coincidence make you wonder if the projected end of the 98 series influenced the selection of Saturday, January 18th as the starting date for the new 2025 trademark fees?



Also, recall that federal offices will be closed on Monday, January 20th for the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday.  I vaguely recall that something else is scheduled for that Monday.



Then there's a bigger question, namely what series comes next after the 99-series is exhausted?  But I'll be retired long before that ...



Happy Trademarking,

Ken Boone

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