[E-trademarks] "Trademark Examining Law Clerk"??

[Edward Timberlake]

At the risk of sounding snarkier than I actually feel, it may not always be
terribly is to define "an actual lawyer."

Is somebody who graduates from law school a lawyer? Are they an actual
lawyer?

Is somebody who has graduated from law school and has taken the bar exam a
lawyer?

Is somebody who has graduated from law school, taken the bar exam, passed
the bar exam but has not yet been admitted to practice in any
jurisdiction a lawyer?

Is somebody who has graduated from law school, taken the bar exam, been
hired and trained by the PTO but not yet received their bar results a
lawyer?


Sincerely,

Ed Timberlake
*Board Certified Specialist in Trademark Law
<https://www.nclawspecialists.gov/for-the-public/find-a-board-certified-specialist/results/detail/?id=29473>*

*Timberlake Law* <http://timberlakelaw.com/>
Chapel Hill, NC

Schedule a call on Clarity <https://clarity.fm/edtimberlake>
ed at timberlakelaw.com
919.960.1950








On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 1:22 PM Laura Geyer via E-trademarks <
e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:

> Dear Listmates:
>
>
>
> I probably missed something where this change was announced, but I was
> recently invited to view one of the most fiddly, pointless initial office
> actions I’ve ever seen (not my client!), signed by a “Trademark Examining
> Law Clerk” and not an examining attorney. It was a refusal w/ very
> boilerplate cut-n-paste and included mistakes of law that do not apply to
> the covered situation and some stuff that was just weird.
>
>
>
> So is it now normal at the PTO for non-attorneys to examine applications
> and issue refusals that are pretty clearly “practice of law”? Can one
> request that an actual lawyer take a look at it before blowing a lot of
> client money responding to a seriously shoddy OA?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laura
>
>
>
> *Laura Talley Geyer* | *Of Counsel*
>
>
>
> *ND Galli Law LLC*
>
> 1200 G Street, N.W., Ste 800
>
> Washington, DC 20005
>
> Tel: (202) 599-9019 (direct)
>
> https://ndgallilaw.com/laura-geyer/
>
> https://ndgallilaw.com/
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