[E-trademarks] Domicile address provided by registration service

[Carl Oppedahl]

Here is a search you should have done on the USPS web site.

Any time you are opening a new US trademark file for a first-time 
trademark client, there is no choice but to do this lookup in the Zip 
code engine at the USPS. The reason for doing this is to look to see if 
the USPS considers the mailing address to be a /*commercial mail 
receiving agency (CMRA). */Here the extremely important piece of 
information gained is that the answer for this client is "no". The USPS 
does/*not*/ consider this Gould Street mailing address to be a 
commercial mail receiving agency (CMRA)./**/Which is good news.
See blog article 
<https://blog.oppedahl.com/the-commissioner-for-trademarks-definitely-discards-the-cmra-data-that-it-receives-from-the-usps/> 
and blog article 
<https://blog.oppedahl.com/lets-see-if-the-commissioner-for-trademarks-is-now-paying-attention-to-cmra-information/>.

But yes as another commenter points out, the USPS will also often do its 
own research, trying to detect if the evil applicant gets its office 
space by renting space in a Regus or Wework or some other shared office 
space. Because after all (apparently, based upon Trademark Office 
behavior) there is a apparently a presumption (nearly irrebuttable) that 
any applicant like that is evil.  And thus must reveal where the owner 
sleeps at night.

Or heaven forbid the client happens to rent an office in a building 
where other commercial tenants also have offices.  This, too, is 
apparently a red flag that the applicant must be evil.  If they were 
legitimate (the way the Commissioner looks at it) they would be so big 
that they own the building.

But yes, if the address is a CMRA, then this will often be a flag to 
treat the applicant as evil and to demand that the owner reveals where 
he or she sleeps at night.

On 6/30/2025 11:31 AM, Charles Kramer via E-trademarks wrote:
> My client tells me the LLC registration service it uses provided a 
> "real" address:
>
>     30 N Gould Street
>     Suite [omitted here]
>     Sheridan, WY 82801
>
> There appears to be a bunch of registrations by owners organized in 
> Wyoming, and using the same address, based on my somewhat crude 
> search: OW:30 AND OW:gould AND OW:wyoming AND LD:true but perhaps they 
> were lucky, or predate the current policy on review of Domicile addresses.
>
> In the worst case, my client could see what happens - and if flagged, 
> decide how to respond then.
>
> *Suggestions?*
>
> Many thanks for comments....
>
>  - Charles
>
>
> ===========================================
> Charles B. Kramer, Esq.
> ~ ATTORNEY ~
> Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/charleskramer 
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