[Patentcenter] venting about Patent Center

Thu Feb 29 11:47:57 EST 2024

You are right that I shouldn't need an auxiliary PDF in this case, but I
filed one for a couple of reasons:

(1) Although I would hope that the USPTO has safeguards in place to prevent
DOCX files from being modified, who knows? If someone along the line were
to delete the IBR paragraph from the DOCX file, whether accidentally or
intentionally, I would be able to rely on the auxiliary PDF to prove the
IBR statement was there on the filing date.

(2) I have made it a policy never to file DOCX without an accompanying
auxiliary PDF file. I like having processes in place whereby I always do
the same thing the same way, because I believe it reduces the likelihood of
errors. Having to file DOCX for clients who insist on it already required
development of a new filing checklist, and I don't want to have variants of
that checklist in play.

As you can tell, I'm a fan of belts and suspenders.

Best regards,
Krista

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Krista S. Jacobsen
Attorney and Counselor at Law
Jacobsen IP Law
krista at jacobseniplaw.com
T:  408.455.5539
www.jacobseniplaw.com

On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 8:21 AM Suzannah K. Sundby <suzannah at canadylortz.com>
wrote:

> Hmm.  Don’t know about your specific error message…
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> But, I’m curious as to why the need to file the auxiliary PDF *when* a
> continuation or divisional and you have the requisite incorporation by
> reference paragraph in the spec for the CON/DIV?
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> Seems to me that the parent application itself is all the ‘protection’ one
> needs…
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> *From:* Patentcenter <patentcenter-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Krista Jacobsen via Patentcenter
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 29, 2024 11:12 AM
> *To:* For bug reports, feature requests, and tips and tricks about Patent
> Center. <patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Krista Jacobsen <krista at jacobseniplaw.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Patentcenter] venting about Patent Center
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> To add to the Patent Crapper stupidity, yesterday I filed a continuation
> that incorporated by reference the parent (filed as a PDF), so the client
> instructed me to file DOCX with an auxiliary PDF. It took until today to be
> able to see the application in PC, but at least it did finally show up
> (though had something gone wrong, I obviously wouldn't have been able to
> fix it on the filing date, which is super-annoying and yet another way PC
> increases risk for practitioners).
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> This morning, I clicked the box to download the IFW as a single PDF file,
> and the following (ironic, no?) message popped up:
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> Fine, whatever. So I clicked download and saved the PDF file.
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> Now, however, I'm trying to download an issue notification in a
> *different* application filed pre-non-DOCX penalty, and guess what
> happens when I click just the single "PDF" link for the issue notification?
> Yes, even though I'm trying to download a single PDF file in a different
> application that wasn't filed as DOCX, PC is popping the same warning
> message:
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> I can't figure out how to stop this behavior, short of logging out and
> logging in again. I ended up "printing" the issue notification to PDF.
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> As usual, bang up job, USPTO!
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> Krista S. Jacobsen
>
> Attorney and Counselor at Law
>
> Jacobsen IP Law
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> krista at jacobseniplaw.com
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> T:  408.455.5539
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> www.jacobseniplaw.com
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> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 6:57 AM Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentcenter <
> patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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> PatentCrapper isn’t living up to everything the USPTO said it would be.
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> I just now tried to view or download a document from a FW and … nothing …
> like watching crap spin around and around in the toilet bowl.
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> Suzannah K. Sundby <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssundby/> *|* Partner
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> canady + lortz LLP <http://www.canadylortz.com/>
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> 1050 30th Street, NW
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> Washington, DC 20007
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> F: 202.540.8020
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> suzannah at canadylortz.com
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> www.canadylortz.com
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> *From:* Patentcenter <patentcenter-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Andrea R. Jacobson via Patentcenter
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 29, 2024 9:29 AM
> *To:* For bug reports, feature requests, and tips and tricks about Patent
> Center. <patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Andrea R. Jacobson <arj at mcgarrybair.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Patentcenter] venting about Patent Center
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> Did you see the System Alert for today that was posted?
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> Thursday Feb 29, 2024
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> Current Events
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> *EMERGENCY: Patent Center Submissions*
>
> Users are reporting that they are not able to view submissions.  Patent
> Center operations are currently being impacted by other internal
> USPTO systems. The USPTO Technical Teams are investigating the issues and
> will update users when it is resolved.
>
> Posted at *07:10AM Feb 29, 2024*
> <https://www.uspto.gov/blog/ebiz/entry/current-events1054> in Current
> Status  |
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> *From:* Patentcenter <patentcenter-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Jeff Lindsay via Patentcenter
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 29, 2024 9:15 AM
> *To:* For bug reports, feature requests, and tips and tricks about Patent
> Center. <patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Jeff Lindsay <jeff at jefflindsay.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Patentcenter] venting about Patent Center
>
>
>
> I had the same ridiculous message yesterday in trying to download a
> document in the Patent Center. After waiting ten seconds, I tried again and
> the download worked.
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>
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> Pro tip: during those ten seconds, I gently chanted “I love the Patent
> Center.” This seems to work for many issues, though for some bugs, it may
> take several years of chanting.
>
>
>
> Jeff Lindsay
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> jeff at jefflindsay.com
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> +1 920-257-7347
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> On Feb 29, 2024, at 6:59 AM, Carl Oppedahl via Patentcenter <
> patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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> Today is the day that the USPTO has mailed out a Notice of Allowance in
> one of our cases.  Except of course not really.  The USPTO loaded a Notice
> of Allowance into IFW and notified us that it is in IFW.
>
> So of course our next step is to go into IFW and try to download the
> Notice of Allowance.  What happened next is, the hourglass spun and spun.
> After some minutes, this very helpful error message popped up.  It is not
> clear to me what exactly the error is, so I guess I should click "close".
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