[Patentcenter] USPTO proposed fee increases (was Patent backlogs)

Wed May 1 08:37:03 EDT 2024

Excellent point! And how about automatically listing those references on the face of the patent so that we don’t have to file an IDS to ensure you do so?

Doreen

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Subject: Re: [Patentcenter] USPTO proposed fee increases (was Patent backlogs)

How about for fee purposes not counting refs that were reported in the parent case and thus, by the PTO's own MPEP, the examiner is already obligated to consider (and that, practically, the examiner has already seen in the parent case, since continuations usually go to the same examiner)?

DJF

On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 5:56 AM Gerry Peters via Patentcenter <patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:
...also troubling is proposed surcharge based on number of refs
listed on an IDS (nondiscountable $200, $500, or $800 for up to 100,
200, or 200+ refs).

How about not requiring practitioner to inform examiner of all related
apps filed with very same USPTO at which examiner works, as well as
all ostensibly material refs cited in those related apps, before
requiring applicant to pay surcharge for fulfilling duty imposed on
practitioner by same USPTO?

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Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 11:32:31 +0900
From: Gerry Peters <gerrypeters at jttpatent.com<mailto:gerrypeters at jttpatent.com>>
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Subject: Re: [Patentcenter] Patent backlogs

Doreen writes:
> Maybe the USPTO should put a hold on the fees for alleged
> “late-filed” continuing applications (filed more than five years
> after the earliest benefit date) until they get this sorted out.

Hadn't heard about that (I know: I _do_ live in a cave...by choice <g>).
Seriously, thanks for mentioning it.

Now I know:
$2,200 "late-filed" surcharge (large entity) if filed more than five
years after earliest benefit date. $3,500 "late-filed" surcharge (large
entity) if filed more than eight years after earliest benefit date
(proposed rulemaking by PTO for fee changes to be implemented in 2025).

Yikes ... is reminiscent of Tafas v. Dudas:

https://ipwatchdog.com/2012/08/21/tafas-v-dudasdoll-5-years-later-but-still-very-pertinent/id=27526/<https://gcfagjf.r.bh.d.sendibt3.com/tr/cl/cO79qVKZmmr3_V2PNWIeLelhBxNzydvT9r38EOO5cuWuOxpJ-OjPZSwdnCYx349R6IT8V7JedJsIQDjo7mJQGQMvd_bDkFVpaO1ZWbIZiEey6iMaasoACSJxl75NKuEv7l9pFfJ8t4pDwdgrZMiQvBSwLoxsCc4NjLZcV0_9yzQ2Vx-pNLEENamNZWgfV46Hc5A4NHDY7TDL4oiRCDlXo7Fhl8rSbPegL4oCEwd1B-ilREM5EPucS_3GP3-unMb8G3-5RKA3YFdnYsvSB8EjwV3D3cT1Hw3IzyrMnkekAKnrVTuJBczshZTUr-irwyn_srNqkbN_xGr_aAfh3ah62_DrzdoE4JF0l1dv9xTrxWn52_-UnKvy2scp6mbQ4czvG1-mZixb-z66>

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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 16:24:59 +0000
From: Doreen Trujillo via Patentcenter <patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com>>
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Thanks, Katherine!

Maybe the USPTO should put a hold on the fees for alleged "late-filed"
continuing applications (filed more than five years after the earliest
benefit date) until they get this sorted out.

Doreen

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From: Patentcenter <patentcenter-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:patentcenter-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com>> On Behalf
Of Katherine Koenig via Patentcenter Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2024
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Subject: [Patentcenter] Patent backlogs

I just called the AAU to ask the status of two applications that have
been in Central Docket since 2022.  The AAU representative told me
they're instructed to transfer these inquiries to the Ombuds Office so
they can help these old applications get "unstuck."  When I spoke with
the Ombuds Office, I was told that they won't do anything to advance
applications until they've been with Central Docket for at least 24
months, and even then, action can take several more months.

This apparently is because the USPTO is down "thousands of Examiners"
and is actively recruiting to bring the numbers back up.  I'd never
heard the hard 24-month guidance, so wanted to pass it along - you'll
likely be wasting your time if you call about an application that's
been sitting for a shorter time than that.  If this saves someone a
30-minute hold with AAU (why do they still play the AIA message from
2012?), I've done my good deed for the day.

Best regards,

Katherine

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