[Patentpractice] USPTO taking next step in transition to DOCX

[David Boundy]

So what are the options for passive aggressive compliance that forces the
PTO to use the PDF just as they always have?

Ten years ago, there was a way to open a PDF, and "Save as Word" and what
you'd get was pages that were each bitmap images, just stored in a .doc
container instead of in a .pdf container.  Totally useless.   Ten years
ago, I had a legal assistant that would do that -- which drove me crazy at
the time,   Now it's PERFECT.







On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 3:59 PM Carl Oppedahl via Patentpractice <
patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:

> On 12/21/2023 1:29 PM, Tim Ackermann via Patentcenter wrote:
> > What if I accidentally filed PDF images of my Abstract, Specification,
> > and Claims as "Figures, other than black & white"? And then amended
> > the drawings to remove those accidental images?
>
> I am migrating this over to the Patent Practice listserv which is the
> right place for it.
>
> The Patentcenter listserv is for bugs and feature requests and
> workarounds relating to Patent Center.
>
> Now to return to the topic.
>
> So what we are talking about is the process of submitting a trusted PDF
> along with the untrusted Microsoft Word file.  The reason for handing in
> the untrusted Microsoft Word file is to avoid having to pay the $400
> penalty.  The reason for handing in the trusted PDF file is, well,
> because it can actually be trusted.
>
> Except not.  The first thing that the USPTO does with your trusted PDF
> is dismember it into TIF images, one per PDF page. And then the USPTO
> carries out halftoning and resizing.  This is the native storage format
> in IFW.  Later if you click to see your trusted PDF, you will find that
> what IFW gives back to you as a PDF is not bit-for-bit the same as the
> PDF that you uploaded.  The PDF that the IFW gives back to you will,
> among other things, have a non-identical message digest (hash).
>
> So yes, it seems to me that the filer who wants to avoid the harm caused
> by the halftoning and resizing would definitely want to index the
> trusted PDF as "non-black-and-white drawings".  That way the PDF is
> preserved bit-for-bit.
>
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