[Patentpractice] PDF forms issue

Michael Dryja mike at dryjapat.com
Fri Apr 19 16:43:13 UTC 2024


Wow, I had not realized that.  I just sort of assumed it was part of the PDF standard.

> On Apr 19, 2024, at 9:01 AM, Scott Nielson via Patentpractice <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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> The problem is that the USPTO IDS and ADS documents use something called "Dynamic XFA," which is proprietary to Adobe. It is not part of the PDF specification so other companies do not have the information needed to make their products fully compatible. If Adobe released the XFA specification, then other software companies could make their software compatible.
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> Scott Nielson
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> From: Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com <mailto:patentpractice-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com>> on behalf of Michael Dryja via Patentpractice <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com <mailto:patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>>
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> Cc: Michael Dryja <mike at dryjapat.com <mailto:mike at dryjapat.com>>; For patent practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek legal advice. <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com <mailto:patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Patentpractice] PDF forms issue
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> I am surprised that other PDF editing programs haven’t offered this functionality.  
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>> On Apr 19, 2024, at 8:36 AM, Carl Oppedahl <carl at oppedahl.com <mailto:carl at oppedahl.com>> wrote:
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>> On 4/19/2024 9:27 AM, Michael Dryja wrote:
>>> The one thing that Acrobat has going for it is that I haven’t found another PDF editing program that permits you to import format data via XML in order to generate ADSs and IDSs.
>> I am sure you did not intend it, but it turns out that you did not word the previous sentence accurately.
>> The USPTO did something that is anti-competitive, and that unnecessarily forces customers to license expensive recurring-cost commercial Acrobat software.  What the USPTO did was construct its recent versions of its fillable official USPTO PDF forms in such a way that no PDF editing program other than paid-for, recurring-cost Acrobat permits you to import format data via XML in order to generate ADSs and IDSs.
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