[Patentpractice] PDF forms issue

[Katherine Koenig]

Thank you to everyone who replied!  Apparently this is a new issue that arose in the last 2 days and Adobe’s engineers are “looking into it.”  Glad it wasn’t just me.  In case anyone else has the same issue, I found a workaround online:  you can tab through the fillable fields – when you arrive at the title field, you can now edit it (but just clicking in the field won’t allow editing).

I agree with the comment that Adobe seems to update things just for the sake of updating, and it mucks everything up.

Best regards,

Katherine

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Subject: Re: [Patentpractice] PDF forms issue


What Scott said.


On 4/19/2024 10:01 AM, Scott Nielson via Patentpractice wrote:
The problem is that the USPTO IDS and ADS documents use something called "Dynamic XFA," which is proprietary to Adobe. It is not part of the PDF specification so other companies do not have the information needed to make their products fully compatible. If Adobe released the XFA specification, then other software companies could make their software compatible.


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Subject: Re: [Patentpractice] PDF forms issue

I am surprised that other PDF editing programs haven’t offered this functionality.


On Apr 19, 2024, at 8:36 AM, Carl Oppedahl <carl at oppedahl.com><mailto:carl at oppedahl.com> wrote:

On 4/19/2024 9:27 AM, Michael Dryja wrote:
The one thing that Acrobat has going for it is that I haven’t found another PDF editing program that permits you to import format data via XML in order to generate ADSs and IDSs.

I am sure you did not intend it, but it turns out that you did not word the previous sentence accurately.

The USPTO did something that is anti-competitive, and that unnecessarily forces customers to license expensive recurring-cost commercial Acrobat software.  What the USPTO did was construct its recent versions of its fillable official USPTO PDF forms in such a way that no PDF editing program other than paid-for, recurring-cost Acrobat permits you to import format data via XML in order to generate ADSs and IDSs.



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