[Patentpractice] group letter (was venting - failure to download priority document from DAS)

[guyvmann at gvmlaw.net]

Thanks, Krista.

 

I called the PCT Help Desk and they looked at it.  

She didn’t see why it was snagged (implying, I guess, that if it was a security review, she’d see that and tell me).

Said she’d “escalate it”.  Guess I’ll just wait some more.

 

I don’t think there is any subject matter in the application that should trigger a security review.  

Especially since the provisional didn’t and got a FFL.

 

 

BTW, folks, sorry for dragging along that lengthy thread tail with my first email.

 

Guy

 

 

 

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From: Krista Jacobsen <krista at jacobseniplaw.com> 
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Cc: guyvmann at gvmlaw.net
Subject: Re: [Patentpractice] group letter (was venting - failure to download priority document from DAS)

 

Hi Guy,

 

This has happened to me when applications are caught in national security review. It's delightful because the USPTO takes months even to say what is happening. And I've had to discover the notices they eventually post in the file wrapper. I don't recall getting any sort of notification of them. 

 

I found out about a couple of application statuses by calling the PCT Help Desk. They told me the reason for the lack of activity and also said I'd have to wait for the 6 months to pass before anything could be done.

 

Best regards,

Krista

 

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On Tue, Aug 6, 2024 at 11:49 AM guyvmann--- via Patentpractice <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com <mailto:patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com> > wrote:

Sort of related question:  

 

Why would it take the USPTO as RO almost three months (and counting) to transmit the IA to the IB?

 

Details:  

 

IA filed May 7, 2024;  IA number assigned by RO and appears in PC

Fees show paid.  Same $ amount shows in ePCT fee calc. sheet, doubtless derived from the Request

*	i.e., they’ve been holding about $ 3800 of client’s money for nearly 3 months now

 

Priority claim to US provisional filed May 8, 2023 is recognized in the PC record.

 

PC’s status shows:  “Application Undergoing Preexam Processing 05/07/2024”

 

Case shows up in ePCT, with relevant info from Request (document sizes, names, etc.) which was entered into ePCT to generate the zip file, of course.

But ePCT says:

*	No IA number assigned (to be assigned by RO)
*	Priority claim too late (but don’t worry about it if you filed the IA timely)

In other words, the IB hasn’t heard from the RO since I downloaded the zip file.

 

And, of course, the expected ISA search and report (EPO) hasn’t even begun yet because the IB doesn’t have what it needs.

 

Are others experiencing this kind of delay?

 

I’m not sure whose cage to rattle about this.

 

Guy

  

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