[Patentpractice] Assignment of US National Phase of foreign-origin PCT
Carl Oppedahl
carl at oppedahl.com
Wed Aug 21 10:45:18 UTC 2024
A kind listserv member points out to me that I misspelled the name of
this Nobel laureate. It is "Feynman".
On 8/21/2024 4:23 AM, Carl Oppedahl via Patentpractice wrote:
>
> Yes I have had such questions from foreign associates a dozen times in
> the past thirty years, and I am always troubled by it.
>
> Indeed think how this kind of project could blow up. One reason it
> could blow up is that what is often at least implied in such a
> question is a hope that somehow you are smarter than anybody anywhere
> in the world, because you somehow know what ten or twenty sets of
> "magic words" need to be inserted into a proposed Assignment that
> would make it legally enforceable in the whole world, in every country
> of the world.
>
> We already know this cannot possibly be within the abilities of any
> particular single practitioner, no matter how smart they are. I am
> told by some European practitioners that one of the requirements for
> an Assignment to work in some European countries is, the document is
> required to be signed not only by the Assignor but also by the
> Assignee. I am also told that in some European countries, the mere
> fact of the inventor drawing paychecks from an employer might mean the
> rights are not owned by the inventor. In which case maybe if someone
> were to stick a would-be Assignment under the nose of the inventor to
> sign might not lead to any rights being assigned because the inventor
> has no rights to assign.
>
> I am told by some Japanese practitioners that in Japan, even if an
> American-style assignment were to be signed by a Japanese inventor, it
> probably does not settle the question of who owns what, because there
> are laws about how much compensation needs to be paid to the inventor.
>
> Just within the US, we have questions that might make for a surprise
> about who owns what, questions that are state-specific within our 50
> states. In California there have been cases where it made a
> difference whether or not the inventor was married at the time the
> invention was made. I am absolutely sure that I lack competency to
> give legal advice in Louisiana not only because I am not admitted to
> practice there, but because that law is based not on US common law but
> instead is based upon the Napoleonic Code. There is some word
> "usufruct" that absolutely means something super important about
> property rights in Louisiana (see
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usufruct#Louisiana ) but that does not
> arise in 48 other states. Whatever "usufruct" means legally in
> Louisiana, I lack competence to say whether it does or does not apply
> in any particular would-be patent assignment
>
> Think of the Assignments that we have all seen over the years, where
> the drafter of the document larded it with language requiring the
> hapless inventor to make lots of representations and warranties that
> the inventor owned all rights, and was of sound mind, and had
> consulted counsel, and was delivering good title, and conveyed it all
> to the Assignee.
>
> Think of the Assignments we have seen where the document fails to
> recite any consideration. Recall that in law school we were taught
> that depending on what jurisdiction we are drafting to meet, maybe it
> is required to recite consideration. Maybe we need to recite at least
> One Dollar? A peppercorn? Think of the Assignments we have seen
> where the hapless inventor is being required to make a party admission
> that the (unspecified) consideration is "good and sufficient".
>
> Now maybe your request from the FA is narrower. Maybe they are only
> asking you to draft up a document that conveys "the US patent rights"
> or "the US designation from the PCT application". Even then there are
> things to go wrong. We have our fifty-states issue for one thing.
> And even a document which superficially seems to assign only US rights
> will often have some word-creep that sort of purports to assign "the
> invention set forth in" or "the invention", which sounds a lot like
> assigning "everything" regardless of geography.
>
> Sometimes I sort of give up and draft up something that is a mere
> quitclaim deed. A document which, correctly understood and
> interpreted, amounts to nothing more than "who knows whether or not I
> have any rights in the US, but to the extent that I do, I hereby
> convey them". Again is a peppercorn enough? One US dollar? An
> unspecified "good and sufficient consideration"?
>
> One of the nice anecdotes in "Surely you're joking, Mr. Feinman" is
> the place where somebody demanded he sign some patent assignment at
> Los Alamos, and it said he was being paid one dollar, and he said he
> would only sign if he actually were to receive the dollar. And of
> course the government bureaucracy and paperwork to carry out the
> payment of the one dollar took weeks or months to satisfy.
>
> In the "Oppenheimer" movie there is the half-a-second bit of film, a
> throwaway quick action cut, that shows a fellow slapping away on bongo
> drums shortly after the big test explosion in New Mexico. That's a
> true story and it was Feinman.
>
> Anyway, yes, I don't even think I could draft a document that I could
> promise would work in all fifty of the United States. If I don't
> think I could do that, how could I possibly add to the mix the need to
> deal with whatever is different about the law when you get to foreign
> countries?
>
> I was born in a place in New Mexico that is walking distance from the
> place where that first big test happened. Thank goodness it was more
> than a decade later than the test. But occasionally a friend or
> relative will ask whether this geography somehow explains one or
> another of my personality quirks.
>
> On 8/20/2024 7:51 PM, Katherine Koenig via Patentpractice wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> A FA has asked me to file the US National Phase application of a PCT
>> application (RO/GB, with two GB priority applications). They’ve also
>> asked me to send an Assignment of the US application for signature.
>>
>> My brain is hanging up on this for some reason – does it make sense
>> (would it be unauthorized practice) for me to send them a US
>> assignment of a US patent application, if the applicant and inventor
>> are both in the UK? Would the contract be governed by UK law, and
>> therefore I couldn’t prepare it for them? I’ve asked the FA for a
>> copy of any assignment that’s already been made, but I’ve so far only
>> received the request to prepare one for the US. If they’re unable to
>> send me prior assignment(s), would a better approach be to prepare a
>> confirmatory assignment (but what if I don’t know the terms of prior
>> assignment(s))?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Katherine
>>
>> Dr. Katherine Koenig
>>
>> /Registered Patent Attorney/
>>
>> Koenig IP Works, PLLC
>>
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>>
>> Fort Lauderdale, FL 33316
>>
>> (954) 903-1699
>>
>> katherine at koenigipworks.com <mailto:katherine at koenigipworks.com>
>>
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