[Patentpractice] Microsoft Authenticator for 2FA in Patent Center?

Mon Dec 2 17:27:26 UTC 2024

Guy - WinAuth is merely a 2FA generator, not a password manager.  (I think,
which means it is not connected to anything about your web browser's
attempt to log in to a particular URL and therefore cannot offer to fill in
the 2FA code for you.)

Password managers can tie your 2FA time dependent code generation to your
password vault, so they can tie your stored login credentials to your 2FA
codes in order to allow one-step login/authentication.  For example, from
the video at for 1Pass:

[image: image.png]

The obvious downside to using a password manager like this, is that
everything you need to log in to a 2FA protected site is stored in one
location, wherever that happens to be.  So if someone got hold of your
password manager's credentials, they get your whole kit and caboodle.  Rick

On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 11:48 AM <guyvmann at gvmlaw.net> wrote:

> That’s interesting, Rick.
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> My authenticator, WinAuth, doesn’t put that little icon there.  Or the
> USPTO didn’t
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> Thus, I have 4 more mouse clicks to verify by copying the code from WA.
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> Did you do something to invoke that, or did it just appear because you use
> whatever authenticator you use?
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> I guess it could be an age thing.  I’ve been using it this way quite a
> while without, to my knowledge, upgrading WinAuth.
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> *From:* Patentpractice <patentpractice-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On
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> *Subject:* Re: [Patentpractice] Microsoft Authenticator for 2FA in Patent
> Center?
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> Thanks Victoria.  The way I use authenticators on PC is by clicking the
> program authenticator icon adjacent the text-box for entry of the code, as
> shown graphically below, by the little green Roboform icon. I wonder if
> your method is more efficient (easier and reliable) than that.
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> On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 10:58 AM Victoria OConnor via Patentpractice <
> patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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> I noticed recently that the USPTO added the option to use a security key
> or Biometric Authenticator as an option.  I have no idea how long this has
> been available, but I only recently noticed a few weeks ago. I set it up
> with my Windows Hello fingerprint to log in on my laptop and it’s been so
> wonderful!  No more waiting on a code to be emailed/texted or having to use
> a code generator authenticator.  Of course, I still have the other options
> set up as a backup, but using the fingerprint scanner on my laptop to
> authenticate/login has been a great change.  Worth looking into if you
> haven’t already!
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> Also, if you do set this up, I would clear cookies for the PTO website
> before logging in with the new method so that when you login, it will ask
> you to set up a new default type of login you want to use moving forward.
> You can then choose the biometric method instead of whatever you had set up
> previously and moving forward the login is much more seamless.
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> Happy Holidays to you all,
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> Victoria
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> *Subject:* Re: [Patentpractice] Microsoft Authenticator for 2FA in Patent
> Center?
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> MS Authenticator works just fine for me for the USPTO as well as 2 other
> logins.
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> *From:* Michael Dryja <mike at dryjapat.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 28, 2024 10:01 AM
> *To:* patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com
> *Subject:* [Patentpractice] Microsoft Authenticator for 2FA in Patent
> Center?
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> I’ve always used SMS for 2FA in Patent Center, but figured I should add an
> authenticator app, too.  Since I have MS Authenticator on my phone for
> Microsoft 365, I figured I’d use that.
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> But when I try to authenticate it, I get “There was an error with the
> system, please try again later.”
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> Has anyone had this issue, and/or is anyone successfully using MS
> Authenticator?
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> Before I call the EFS Help Desk, I want to make sure that it’s not an
> issue similar to the address book in Assignment Center, which just doesn’t
> work, full stop.
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>  - Mike Dryja.
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