[Patentpractice] Extended Due Date/Sanity Check Question

Wed Mar 12 15:46:53 UTC 2025

Thanks for the sanity check.

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Subject: Re: [Patentpractice] Extended Due Date/Sanity Check Question

Well, you have 5 months unless otherwise limited by statute. Not aware of a statutory limit for this -- 35 CFR 1.835 indicates it's just made up by the office, so it's nonstatutory. The notice specifically cites 1.136a which says you can by default extend 5 months.
Maybe the abandonment was generated by DOGE AI in order to help reduce the examination backlog?
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§ 1.136 Extensions of time.
Link to an amendment published at 89 FR 92008<https://www.law.cornell.edu/rio/citation/89_FR_92008>, Nov. 20, 2024.

(a)

(1) If an applicant<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=08e72d765bb8bde1a92a362f0bc1d642&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:37:Chapter:I:Subchapter:A:Part:1:Subpart:B:Subjgrp:90:1.136> is required to reply<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=980af7820b876c8f1def060757f068e3&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:37:Chapter:I:Subchapter:A:Part:1:Subpart:B:Subjgrp:90:1.136> within a nonstatutory or shortened statutory time period, applicant<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=08e72d765bb8bde1a92a362f0bc1d642&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:37:Chapter:I:Subchapter:A:Part:1:Subpart:B:Subjgrp:90:1.136> may extend the time period for reply<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=980af7820b876c8f1def060757f068e3&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:37:Chapter:I:Subchapter:A:Part:1:Subpart:B:Subjgrp:90:1.136> up to the earlier of the expiration of any maximum period set by statute or five months after the time period set for reply<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=980af7820b876c8f1def060757f068e3&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:37:Chapter:I:Subchapter:A:Part:1:Subpart:B:Subjgrp:90:1.136>, if a petition for an extension of time and the fee set in § 1.17(a)<https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/37/1.17#a> are filed, unless:

(i) Applicant<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=08e72d765bb8bde1a92a362f0bc1d642&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:37:Chapter:I:Subchapter:A:Part:1:Subpart:B:Subjgrp:90:1.136> is notified otherwise in an Office action;

(ii) The reply<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=980af7820b876c8f1def060757f068e3&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:37:Chapter:I:Subchapter:A:Part:1:Subpart:B:Subjgrp:90:1.136> is a reply<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=980af7820b876c8f1def060757f068e3&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:37:Chapter:I:Subchapter:A:Part:1:Subpart:B:Subjgrp:90:1.136> brief submitted pursuant to § 41.41<https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/37/41.41> of this title;

(iii) The reply<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=980af7820b876c8f1def060757f068e3&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:37:Chapter:I:Subchapter:A:Part:1:Subpart:B:Subjgrp:90:1.136> is a request for an oral hearing submitted pursuant to § 41.47(a)<https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/37/41.47#a> of this title;

(iv) The reply<https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/index.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=980af7820b876c8f1def060757f068e3&term_occur=999&term_src=Title:37:Chapter:I:Subchapter:A:Part:1:Subpart:B:Subjgrp:90:1.136> is to a decision by the Patent Trial and Appeal Board pursuant to § 41.50<https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/37/41.50> or § 41.52<https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/37/41.52> of this chapter or to § 90.3<https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/37/90.3> of this chapter; or

(v) The application is involved in a contested case (§ 41.101(a)<https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/37/41.101#a> of this title) or a derivation proceeding (§ 42.4(b)<https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/37/42.4#b> of this title).

37 CFR 1.835 Amendment to add or replace a “Sequence Listing XML” in patent applications filed on or after July 1, 2022.

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     *   (d)(1) If any of the requirements of §§ 1.831<https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep-9020-appx-r.html#ar_d35d57_1bdc8_2b8> through 1.834<https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep-9020-appx-r.html#ar_d35d57_1be3b_1cf> are not satisfied in an application under 35 U.S.C. 111(a)<https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep-9015-appx-l.html#pltd0e302678aia> or in a national stage application under 35 U.S.C. 371<https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep-9015-appx-l.html#d0e307164>, the applicant will be notified and given a period of time within which to comply with such requirements in order to prevent abandonment of the application. Subject to paragraph (d)(2) of this section, any amendment to add or replace a “Sequence Listing XML” or add an incorporation by reference of the material contained in the “Sequence Listing XML” in response to a requirement under this paragraph (d)(1) must be submitted in accordance with the requirements of paragraphs (a) through (c) of this section.

On 3/12/2025 10:14 AM, Suzannah K. Sundby via Patentpractice wrote:
Received a Notification to Comply (with Sequence Listing Requirements), which is essentially a Notice of Missing Parts.

The Notice was mailed October 17, 2024, and sets an extendible 2 month shortened due date.
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The USPTO just mailed a Notice of Abandonment for failing to timely respond.

Thus, I need a sanity check:
Because it is a 2-month shortened date, the due date can be extended by 5 months to May 17, 2025 – Correct?

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