[Patentpractice] Modifying PTO forms - must I remove the OMB notice

[Timothy Snowden]

You can also just leave it all unchecked and generate your own 
transmittal -- although that will cause you to lose any PTA.

My understanding is that if you modify the form, you have to remove OMB. 
HOWEVER -- if you just type extra things on top of the form, you're not 
modifying the form, you're just unconventially filling it out, like 
making a note on a paper form.

On 3/12/2025 10:45 AM, Jeffrey Semprebon via Patentpractice wrote:
> Not that it answers your question on the OMB number, but in this case 
> I'd be tempted to leave both boxes unchecked and just list the copy of 
> the published application under "other items or information" in the 
> box for item #20.
>
> -Jeff
>
> Jeffrey E. Semprebon
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> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:36 AM Patent Lawyer via Patentpractice 
> <patentpractice at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
>
>     If I modify a PTO form, must I remove the OMB approval notice?
>
>     Why am I modifying a form? Short answer: because it is crap!
>
>     I am filing a national phase entry. Even though the application
>     was published, I like to provide a copy of the published
>     internatinal applicaiton with the filing.
>
>     The old form PTO-1390 [PTO-1390 (12-22) Approved for use through
>     11/30/2025. OMB 0651-0021] had this option:
>
>
>
>     The current form PTO-1390 [PTO-1390 (01-25) Approved for use
>     through 11/30/2025 OMB 0651-0021] has the following:
>
>
>     I cannot select option "a" because the application is attached. 
>     And I cannot select option "b" because it is not true.
>
>     So I will modify the form (by editing the PDF).  Or maybe use the
>     old one.
>
>     So, back to my question: if I modify the current form, must I
>     remove the OMB approval notice?
>
>     Another question (maybe for DB only): these forms have the same
>     OMB number.  Can the PTO do that even though the forms are different?
>
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