[Pct] ePCT change of applicant

[David Boundy]

I don't remember exactly what I did.   (That's the way it is after you try
bunches of different things, none of which seem to be right, and finally
you just give up and do something that seems wrong.)

I think what I ended up with was two steps:

     1. ePCT > Documents > Upload > IB > Assignment.   Then submit.  One
transaction.

     2(a). Then Actions > 92bis >  ADD a second applicant (rather than
CHANGE the existing
             applicant)

              I don't know whether this will work, since there's no
assignment doc in support of this
              92bis change to applicant, because ePCT won't let me upload
an Assignment (to my
              way of thinking, that's a bug -- it seems more than passing
strange that I can't upload
              an Assignment in support of a change of applicant.  In fact,
it seems odd to me that
              ePCT would ever let me change applicant *without* a
supporting doc.)

              I don't know whether this will work, because on its face, I
have now requested two
              applicants in parallel, rather than a CHANGE.

      2(b) Then Actions > 92bis > change AGENT
             For this, I can upload a Power of Attorney

      2(c) I eventually got to "Submit" for this second transaction.   But
I don't remember how.   For a couple things I tried, I couldn't sign (I
have no signature authority on behalf of the old applicant or old agent).
Eventually I got to something that allowed me to sign, and at this point I
was no longer letting "that seems right" get in the way of "Be done.  Kill
them all and let God sort it out."  So I signed it and hit Submit.   And I
have no idea whether it'll be accepted.

David



On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 12:28 PM David Boundy <DavidBoundyEsq at gmail.com>
wrote:

> My client just bought some patent applications from a seller, including
> some PCT's.  I have and Assignment and a Power.
>
> How do I change "applicant" and Power of Attorney in ePCT?   I got to epCT
> > Actions > Rule 92bis change request   I see how to do two things,
> neither of which really fits, and it's odd for ePCT to not have an
> obviously-right thing to do --
>      -- select the current "applicant" and use the pencil to "change
> applicant" -- but that is only for changes of *name* to the same
> applicant (heir, name change, merger, etc.)  I want a *different*
> applicant
>      -- "edit parties" to add a new applicant.  I can fill that out, but
> there's no way to upload an Assignment
>
> If I do Upload documents > IB > Assignment, then I'm locked out the 92bis
> change, can't do it in the same transaction.
>
> The thing I'm looking for probably does a Change of Applicant, and *simultaneously
> *asks for upload of an assignment *and simultaneously *a Power of
> Attorney, I would think.  For this kind of change of Applicant, it would
> ask for upload of an Assignment as a supporting document *simultaneously*.
>   I can't find any of these that guarantees doing everything all at once.
> I rememebr that it used to be that if you did part of a Rule 92bis change,
> you'd get locked out for 24 hours, so I didn't want to do that, and I tried
> to avoid it until I was forced into that corner.
>
> I stitched something together that gives me heartburn, and will no doubt
> create heartburn for our friends in Geneva.  And now, to my surprise, I am
> not locked out.  Maybe that's the fundamental change.
>
> Mike or Anne, for this kind of thing, "Change Applicant" and upload
> Assignment and Change Agent and Upload Power of Attorney are all part and
> parcel of the same transaction.   It's not at all clear how to do that
> without the 24-hour lockout.
>
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