[E-trademarks] Use of TM/SM in US

Tue Dec 17 17:21:43 UTC 2024

Mark-

Taking off from your reference to “muggles” I am reminded of science fiction author Arthur C. Clarke’s observation that “any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”  Arthur C. Clarke: 'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.' — The Socratic Method<https://www.socratic-method.com/quote-meanings-interpretations/arthur-c-clarke-any-sufficiently-advanced-technology-is-indistinguishable-from-magic>

P.S. Clark also conceived of geosynchronous satellites as communications hubs.  https://ethw.org/Clarke_Suggests_Geosynchronous_Orbit

-Gerry
Gerry J. Elman, J.D.
Elman IP
Intellectual Property Matters
6117 St. James Place, Denton, TX 76210
610-892-9942   www.elman.com<http://www.elman.com/>

From: E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> On Behalf Of Mark Kaufman via E-trademarks
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2024 7:56 AM
To: e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com
Cc: Mark Kaufman <kaufman at kaufmankahn.com>; e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com
Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] Use of TM/SM in US

Haven’t seen the use of the word “normies”, but when I noted something in the advertising world to my son who works for an ad agency, he wrote, “I hadn’t realized that muggles knew about that yet…”

Thanks,
Mark

Mark S. Kaufman
Kaufman & Kahn, LLP
Email:  kaufman at kaufmankahn.com<mailto:kaufman at kaufmankahn.com>
www.kaufmankahn.com<http://www.kaufmankahn.com/>

10 Grand Central
155 East 44<x-apple-data-detectors://5/0>th<x-apple-data-detectors://5/0> Street, 19<x-apple-data-detectors://5/0>th<x-apple-data-detectors://5/0> Floor<x-apple-data-detectors://5/0>
New York, NY  10017<x-apple-data-detectors://5/0>
Mobile:  (917) 453-7807<tel:(917)%20453-7807>
Tel.:  (212) 293-5556<tel:(212)%20293-5556>, x 2

[X]

This email is intended only for the party to whom it is addressed and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination or copying of this email is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, kindly notify us immediately, return the email to us, and destroy any electronic or other copies of the email (including any notification to us in your “Sent” folder). Thank you in advance for your cooperation and courtesy.

On Dec 16, 2024, at 6:24 PM, Bosland Law via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:

I’ve heard that one from the normies, but not from counsel.  How embarrassing…

db

On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 3:17 PM Lara Pearson via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:
Phew! And, thank you!

Due to the high visibility of the poster on LinkedIn, this was one of those moments where I thought I'd somehow been mistaken for 25 years.

I appreciate the quick sanity check, Charles!

Lara Pearson, Esq.
Law Office of Lara Pearson Ltd, PBC & Brand Geek
775.833.1600
Calendly.com/BrandGeek (let's meet)

Creative typoing by iPhone

On Dec 16, 2024, at 6:10 PM, Charles Guarino <cpguarino9 at gmail.com<mailto:cpguarino9 at gmail.com>> wrote:

That is an inaccurate statement.  In the United States, the TM/SM designations may be used to denote the claim of common law rights in a mark.  No pending application is required.

On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 6:02 PM Lara Pearson via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:
Happy work week, list friends:

A US trademark attorney posted on LinkedIn today that use of TM/SM is reserved for those with pending apps.  I don't believe this is accurate (and neither does ChatGPT 😂), but I wanted to double check with the folks in this group, in case I've been missing something all these years.

Thank you.

With appreciation,
Lara Pearson, Esq.
Law Office of Lara Pearson Ltd, PBC & Brand Geek
775.833.1600
Calendly.com/BrandGeek (let's meet)

Creative typoing by iPhone

--
E-trademarks mailing list
E-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:E-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com
--
E-trademarks mailing list
E-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:E-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com
--
E-trademarks mailing list
E-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:E-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
http://oppedahl-lists.com/mailman/listinfo/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://oppedahl-lists.com/pipermail/e-trademarks_oppedahl-lists.com/attachments/20241217/47c53b8b/attachment.html>