[E-trademarks] FW: Proposed trademark fees changes for fiscal year 2025

Carl Oppedahl carl at oppedahl.com
Mon Mar 25 17:41:15 EDT 2024


This reminds me of the difference between a "plus" and a "non-plus" 
case.  Basically if you file a "plus" case, the Examiner carries out a 
nit-pick and if the Examiner finds a real or imagined flaw in any of a 
dozen or so categories, you get dinged for the fee difference between 
"plus" and "non-plus".  I learned years ago to simply always file as 
"non-plus".  This saves having to apologize to the client for having 
somehow failed to catch something that would result in getting dinged 
for the fee difference between "plus" and "non-plus".

It's one thing if you were to hold yourself to the standard of noticing 
that you are on the verge of failing to say the entity type.  But it is 
not a realistic goal to promise to the client that the Examiner will not 
find some real or imagined flaw in one of the judgment-call areas such 
as description of the mark.  I had one case where it was a judgment call 
about the color statement. The Examiner was convinced that there were 
one or two pixels in yellow (out of maybe a million pixels) and so my 
failure to mention the color "yellow" in the color statement led to my 
getting dinged for dinged for the fee difference between "plus" and 
"non-plus".

So now I never file "plus" and then I never have to apologize to the 
client for failing to mention a yellow pixel or whatever.

And now if this new gouge takes effect, there will be no fewer than 
twenty nit-pick areas available to the Examiner, once again where some 
of them are very much judgment calls rather than simple yes-or-no things 
to check.  So I plan to always quote to the client the $100 gouge fee.  
And if against all odds the Examiner does not find any real or imagined 
flaw in the twenty-item checklist, then I can give the client the good 
news that it won't have to pay the $100 gouge fee after all.

If this gouge fee goes into effect, one of the main victims will be 
Madrid filers.   Over the years I have seen many, many Madrid cases 
where the filer failed to say "where they are incorporated" or "what the 
entity type is".  And the Madrid case designates the US, and the 
Examiner flags this lapse.  And it will now be a $100 lapse.

On 3/25/2024 4:06 PM, Ronni Jillions via E-trademarks wrote:
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> I wonder what the USPTO will consider “insufficient information”.  Is 
> that going to be imposed when in a first action, the examiner decides 
> the description needs to be amended?
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> Ronni
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> Behalf Of *Tim Ackermann via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2024 3:55 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] FW: Proposed trademark fees changes for 
> fiscal year 2025
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> Here we go: merge TEAS/TEAS+, but use the higher $350/class rate. Then 
> add add'l fees on top:
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> TMIDM does not contain appropriate goods/services for your client? You 
> pay $200!
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> Office decides you didn't supply "sufficient" information? You pay $100!
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> On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 2:22 PM Richard Morris via E-trademarks 
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>         Proposed trademark fees changes for fiscal year 2025
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>           Submit comments by May 28
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>     As part of our regular assessment of fees under our fee-setting
>     authority, we are proposing certain adjustments necessary to
>     efficiently and effectively administer the U.S. trademark system.
>     These fees provide our agency with the ability to implement
>     programs and initiatives driving our 2022–2026 Strategic Plan,
>     including developing news ways to fight fraud, supporting our
>     employees and stakeholders with reliable IT infrastructure, and
>     enhancing our work to reduce pendency. Our proposed changes to the
>     trademark fees can be found in a notice of proposed rulemaking
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>     “This trademark fee proposal thoughtfully promotes efficient
>     operations, adjusts for higher operating costs, and sufficiently
>     finances ongoing and planned initiatives that optimize our service
>     to American entrepreneurs,” said Under Secretary of Commerce for
>     Intellectual Property and Director of the USPTO Kathi Vidal.
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>     Our trademark fee proposal provides additional resources to enable
>     us to deliver high-quality and timely trademark examination and
>     review proceedings that produce accurate and reliable trademark
>     rights for domestic and international stakeholders. It also
>     enables us to spend additional efforts to declutter the trademark
>     register and address fraud that impacts American entrepreneurs.
>     The rule will enable the USPTO to accomplish our mission to drive
>     U.S. innovation, inclusive capitalism, and global competitiveness.
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>     Our proposal is shaped by public feedback we’ve received
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