[E-trademarks] FW: Proposed trademark fees changes for fiscal year 2025

Tue Mar 26 11:23:23 EDT 2024

Agreed Carl.  I always tell clients to expect an office action on the
description of the mark, on any non-TMID description, and any potentially
disclaim-able aspect of the mark.  I will just start collecting the $100
fee upfront.  It is really a better use of the client's time and money to
pay the examiner $100 to tell me what is acceptable on that particular day
than for me to agonize over it and still get it wrong.

However, I would really like them to stop telling me that "Ltd." is not a
Canadian Corporation.  Will I have to pay the $100 fee when they are WRONG
about the entity designation?

Many, if not most, foreign applicants have non-standard descriptions, and
this will also be a tax on them.

Best,
Dineen

On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 5:43 PM Carl Oppedahl via E-trademarks <
e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:

> This reminds me of the difference between a "plus" and a "non-plus" case.
> Basically if you file a "plus" case, the Examiner carries out a nit-pick
> and if the Examiner finds a real or imagined flaw in any of a dozen or so
> categories, you get dinged for the fee difference between "plus" and
> "non-plus".  I learned years ago to simply always file as "non-plus".  This
> saves having to apologize to the client for having somehow failed to catch
> something that would result in getting dinged for the fee difference
> between "plus" and "non-plus".
>
> It's one thing if you were to hold yourself to the standard of noticing
> that you are on the verge of failing to say the entity type.  But it is not
> a realistic goal to promise to the client that the Examiner will not find
> some real or imagined flaw in one of the judgment-call areas such as
> description of the mark.  I had one case where it was a judgment call about
> the color statement.  The Examiner was convinced that there were one or two
> pixels in yellow (out of maybe a million pixels) and so my failure to
> mention the color "yellow" in the color statement led to my getting dinged
> for dinged for the fee difference between "plus" and "non-plus".
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> So now I never file "plus" and then I never have to apologize to the
> client for failing to mention a yellow pixel or whatever.
>
> And now if this new gouge takes effect, there will be no fewer than twenty
> nit-pick areas available to the Examiner, once again where some of them are
> very much judgment calls rather than simple yes-or-no things to check.  So
> I plan to always quote to the client the $100 gouge fee.  And if against
> all odds the Examiner does not find any real or imagined flaw in the
> twenty-item checklist, then I can give the client the good news that it
> won't have to pay the $100 gouge fee after all.
>
> If this gouge fee goes into effect, one of the main victims will be Madrid
> filers.   Over the years I have seen many, many Madrid cases where the
> filer failed to say "where they are incorporated" or "what the entity type
> is".  And the Madrid case designates the US, and the Examiner flags this
> lapse.  And it will now be a $100 lapse.
> On 3/25/2024 4:06 PM, Ronni Jillions via E-trademarks wrote:
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> I wonder what the USPTO will consider “insufficient information”.  Is that
> going to be imposed when in a first action, the examiner decides the
> description needs to be amended?
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> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] FW: Proposed trademark fees changes for
> fiscal year 2025
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> Here we go: merge TEAS/TEAS+, but use the higher $350/class rate. Then add
> add'l fees on top:
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> TMIDM does not contain appropriate goods/services for your client? You pay
> $200!
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> Office decides you didn't supply "sufficient" information? You pay $100!
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> *Subject: *Proposed trademark fees changes for fiscal year 2025
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> we are proposing certain adjustments necessary to efficiently and
> effectively administer the U.S. trademark system. These fees provide our
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> 2022–2026 Strategic Plan, including developing news ways to fight fraud,
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