[E-trademarks] FW: Proposed trademark fees changes for fiscal year 2025, and translation requirement

Carl Oppedahl carl at oppedahl.com
Tue Mar 26 13:03:08 EDT 2024


Yes I have had several times over the years when an Examiner plugged our 
coined-word mark into Google and got a hit, and this hit became the 
supposed proof that the word is supposedly a word in some non-English 
language.  And so we go around and around on this.  Worse yet, the 
Examiner takes our coined-work mark and breaks it up into two supposed 
components and somehow manages to find some non-English language in 
which the two components, taken individually, are supposedly words.

Typically what I eventually do is respond along these lines ...

    The mark is "qwertyuiop".  The Examiner requires that the applicant
    provide a translation statement for purported words qwerty and uiop
    in the <obscure> language.  As required by the Examiner, applicant
    hereby states that qwerty in the <obscure> language may be
    translated into the English word "purple" and that uiop in the
    <obscure> language may be translated into the English word
    "monkey".  Applicant denies, however, that "qwertyuiop" is a word in
    any non-English language.

And yes, the price of admission to this annoying exercise will 
apparently become $100.

On 3/26/2024 9:48 AM, Laura A. Genovese via E-trademarks wrote:
>
> I am wondering how people feel about #14, the requirement to translate 
> non-English wording. What if the client has a made-up word, but the 
> Examiner puts it into Google translate and sees that in some language, 
> what is believed to be a made-up word might be a real word. Is there 
> any room to argue that the mark is a made-up word, or acronym? Or must 
> we just pay the surcharge?
>
> *From:*E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On 
> Behalf Of *Gordon, Michael via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2024 4:32 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek 
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* Gordon, Michael <Michael.Gordon at cfraresearch.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] FW: Proposed trademark fees changes for 
> fiscal year 2025
>
> The NPRM lists 20 elements that are required for a “base application,” 
> and failure to provide these would trigger the $100 fee.
>
> (1) The applicant’s name and domicile address;
>
> (2) The applicant’s legal entity;
>
> (3) The citizenship of each individual applicant, or the state or 
> country of incorporation or organization of each juristic applicant; 
> (4) If the applicant is a domestic partnership, the names and 
> citizenship of the general partners, or if the applicant is a domestic 
> joint venture, the names and citizenship of the active members of the 
> joint venture;
>
> (5) If the applicant is a sole proprietorship, the state of 
> organization of the sole proprietorship and the name and citizenship 
> of the sole proprietor;
>
> (6) One or more bases for filing that satisfy all the requirements of 
> § 2.34. If more than one basis is set forth, the applicant must comply 
> with the requirements of § 2.34 for each asserted basis;
>
> (7) If the application contains goods and/or services in more than one 
> class, compliance with § 2.86;
>
> (8) A filing fee for each class of goods and/or services, as required 
> by § 2.6(a)(1)(ii) or (iii);
>
> (9) A verified statement that meets the requirements of § 2.33, dated 
> and signed by a person properly authorized to sign on behalf of the 
> owner pursuant to § 2.193(e)(1);
>
> (10) If the applicant does not claim standard characters, the 
> applicant must attach a digitized image of the mark. If the mark 
> includes color, the drawing must show the mark in color;
>
> (11) If the mark is in standard characters, a mark comprised only of 
> characters in the Office's standard character set, typed in the 
> appropriate field of the application;
>
> (12) If the mark includes color, a statement naming the color(s) and 
> describing where the color(s) appears on the mark, and a claim that 
> the color(s) is a feature of the mark;
>
> (13) If the mark is not in standard characters, a description of the 
> mark;
>
> (14) If the mark includes non-English wording, an English translation 
> of that wording;
>
> (15) If the mark includes non-Latin characters, a transliteration of 
> those characters;
>
> (16) If the mark includes an individual’s name or likeness, either (i) 
> a statement that identifies the living individual whose name or 
> likeness the mark comprises and written consent of the individual, or 
> (ii) a statement that the name or likeness does not identify a living 
> individual (see section 2(c) of the Act);
>
> (17) If the applicant owns one or more registrations for the same 
> mark, and the owner(s) last listed in Office records of the prior 
> registration(s) for the same mark differs from the owner(s) listed in 
> the application, a claim of ownership of the registration(s) 
> identified by the registration number(s), pursuant to § 2.36;
>
> (18) If the application is a concurrent use application, compliance 
> with § 2.42;
>
> (19) An applicant whose domicile is not located within the United 
> States or its territories must designate an attorney as the 
> applicant’s representative, pursuant to § 2.11(a), and include the 
> attorney’s name, postal address, email address, and bar information; and
>
> (20) Correctly classified goods and/or services, with an 
> identification of goods and/or services from the Office's Acceptable 
> Identification of Goods and Services Manual within the electronic form.
>
> Want to petition to keep the domicile address out of the record? $100 
> fee, plus the petition fee. Client LLC representative enters “owner” 
> instead of “member” on the signature line? $100 fee, depending on the 
> examiner. (TMEP § 611.06(g) says that “owner” should be okay, but 
> sometimes they decide otherwise.) Description of the mark not exact 
> enough for the examiner? $100 fee. Miss a prior registration when 
> citing prior relevant registrations? $100 fee. I also wonder if you 
> can respond to the office action calling for the $100 fee to argue 
> against the $100 fee or if the only way to argue against it would be a 
> petition to the director…for a $400 fee.
>
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> *From:*E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On 
> Behalf Of *Ronni Jillions via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2024 4:06 PM
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> *Cc:* Ronni Jillions <RSJillions at browdyneimark.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] FW: Proposed trademark fees changes for 
> fiscal year 2025
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> I wonder what the USPTO will consider “insufficient information”.  Is 
> that going to be imposed when in a first action, the examiner decides 
> the description needs to be amended?
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> Best regards,
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> Ronni
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> *From:*E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On 
> Behalf Of *Tim Ackermann via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2024 3:55 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek 
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> *Cc:* Tim Ackermann <tim at ackermannlaw.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] FW: Proposed trademark fees changes for 
> fiscal year 2025
>
> Here we go: merge TEAS/TEAS+, but use the higher $350/class rate. Then 
> add add'l fees on top:
>
> TMIDM does not contain appropriate goods/services for your client? You 
> pay $200!
>
> Office decides you didn't supply "sufficient" information? You pay $100!
>
> Tim Ackermann
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