[E-trademarks] TM search bar

[Edward Timberlake]

*search terms don't all need to be in lowercase


Sincerely,

Ed Timberlake
*Board Certified Specialist in Trademark Law
<https://www.nclawspecialists.gov/for-the-public/find-a-board-certified-specialist/results/detail/?id=29473>*

*Timberlake Law* <http://timberlakelaw.com/>
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On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 9:55 AM Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks <
e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:

> I have definitely done that before.  All field tags and logic operators
> need to be in all caps; all search terms need to be in lowercase.
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *James E. Lake via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2024 8:32 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* James E. Lake <jel at randalldanskin.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] TM search bar
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> Great, thank you. I missed that line in the instructions.
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> *From:* Kevin Grierson <kgrierson at cm.law>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2024 4:56 PM
> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* James E. Lake <jel at randalldanskin.com>
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> You need to capitalize AND NOT.  If you do that, you’ll cut your results
> down to 1080.
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> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf
> Of *James E. Lake via E-trademarks
> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2024 7:23 PM
> *To:* e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com
> *Cc:* James E. Lake <jel at randalldanskin.com>
> *Subject:* [E-trademarks] TM search bar
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> I am new to this group, so this topic may have already been addressed.
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> Has anyone else noticed the “andnot” Boolean operator at
> https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-information appears to be
> programmed incorrectly? Per https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/help, “Use AND NOT
> if results must satisfy the first search term but not the second. For
> example, CM:*USPTO* AND NOT DC:* retrieves marks where the literal element
> of the mark includes USPTO and there are no design search codes.” However,
> it does not always work that way.
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> For the search query
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> AT: "john smith"~3
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> I get 1,402 results.
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> For the narrowed search query
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> AT: "john smith"~3 andnot AT: hill
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> I get 27,181 results. Something seems very wrong here. As I understand it,
> the second search must necessarily yield the same or fewer results.
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> If I use the “and not” (with a space) operator from the USPTO
> instructions, instead of the more typical “andnot” (no space) operator,
> then I get over 9,000,000 results!
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