[E-trademarks] TM search bar

[Pamela Chestek]

I believe that the regex search is case sensitive.

Pam

On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 10:19 AM Edward Timberlake via E-trademarks <
e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:

> *search terms don't all need to be in lowercase
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> Sincerely,
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> On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 9:55 AM Kevin Grierson via E-trademarks <
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>> I have definitely done that before.  All field tags and logic operators
>> need to be in all caps; all search terms need to be in lowercase.
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>> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *James E. Lake via E-trademarks
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2024 8:32 PM
>> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
>> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Cc:* James E. Lake <jel at randalldanskin.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [E-trademarks] TM search bar
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>> Great, thank you. I missed that line in the instructions.
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>> James Lake
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>> *From:* Kevin Grierson <kgrierson at cm.law>
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2024 4:56 PM
>> *To:* For trademark practitioners. This is not for laypersons to seek
>> legal advice. <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>
>> *Cc:* James E. Lake <jel at randalldanskin.com>
>> *Subject:* RE: TM search bar
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>> You need to capitalize AND NOT.  If you do that, you’ll cut your results
>> down to 1080.
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>> *From:* E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On
>> Behalf Of *James E. Lake via E-trademarks
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2024 7:23 PM
>> *To:* e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com
>> *Cc:* James E. Lake <jel at randalldanskin.com>
>> *Subject:* [E-trademarks] TM search bar
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>> I am new to this group, so this topic may have already been addressed.
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>> Has anyone else noticed the “andnot” Boolean operator at
>> https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-information appears to be
>> programmed incorrectly? Per https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/help, “Use AND
>> NOT if results must satisfy the first search term but not the second. For
>> example, CM:*USPTO* AND NOT DC:* retrieves marks where the literal element
>> of the mark includes USPTO and there are no design search codes.” However,
>> it does not always work that way.
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>> For the search query
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>> AT: "john smith"~3
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>> I get 1,402 results.
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>> For the narrowed search query
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>> AT: "john smith"~3 andnot AT: hill
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>> I get 27,181 results. Something seems very wrong here. As I understand
>> it, the second search must necessarily yield the same or fewer results.
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>> If I use the “and not” (with a space) operator from the USPTO
>> instructions, instead of the more typical “andnot” (no space) operator,
>> then I get over 9,000,000 results!
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