[E-trademarks] sanity check
Ellen Lockwood
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If it is an individual, I check “national.” If the applicant is a business, I check “real and effective commercial establishment.” We’ve never had an issue.
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From: E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> On Behalf Of Simor Moskowitz via E-trademarks
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Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] sanity check
I agree with Tim and have always checked "domicile". Simor Moskowitz ......................................................... Simor L. Moskowitz Westerman, Hattori, LLP 8500 Leesburg Pike, Suite 7500 Tysons, VA 22182 (240) 731-0609 (cell) 703) 827-3803 (DD) (703) 827-3
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I agree with Tim and have always checked "domicile".
Simor Moskowitz
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Simor L. Moskowitz
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From: E-trademarks <e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com>> on behalf of Tim Ackermann via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>>
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Subject: Re: [E-trademarks] sanity check
Isn't "domiciled" an available and undisputed option?
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On Sun, Jul 27, 2025, 17:25 Janet Satterthwaite via E-trademarks <e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com<mailto:e-trademarks at oppedahl-lists.com>> wrote:
Hi all,
We are getting ready to file a Madrid designating a lot of places our from a US registration, so a big filing fee, so we want to get it right.
My paralegal refuses to believe that a US company can be a "national" --she insists that is only for people so she wants to check the "real and effective presence" box, but I disagree b/c that, IMHO, is for foreign companies who have a factory here or whatever. I cannot find anything confirming that for purposes of filing a Madrid application, a company is a US national so I cannot prove this to my paralegal. Or should we check the US domicile box?
This seems like a dumb question but I'm stumped. I normally avoid Madrid so I'm not too fluent in it.
regards
Janet
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