[Patentpractice] USPTO welcome letters

[Suzannah K. Sundby]

Agreed.

Point is that the same information can be provided on the webpage where one has to go and find out how to file an application in the first place.

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It seems like a lot of their processes, systems and procedures have been "simplified" for the sake of the inexperienced individual inventor.  I don't have the data to support my assumption but I would imagine that demographic is a small part of the filing volume and, is most certainly, a very small part of the agency's revenue.  So, what consultant is telling them to make these changes and why?  They need better consultants.


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Fujitsu Intellectual Property Center 

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The question to be asking is WHY ARE THE LETTERS NEEDED NOW after how many years the USPTO went without.

Seems to go against the Paperwork Reduction Act...

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Dan Feigelson wrote:
> Suzannah K. Sundby wrote:

>> Agreed.

>> Imo, the Welcome Letters are Vidal trying to justify herself... "But 
>> we're nice and welcoming... <shows letter>... even if our software 
>> 'improvements' are not user friendly..."

> How difficult would it be for the system to determine if the ADS is 
> signed by a practitioner, and to not send the letter in such a case?

> Too difficult for the PTO, apparently.

The letter mentions that the "Office action includes a 'rejection'".

If the PTO has "business logic" automation that recognizes that the action that triggers the letter includes a rejection, it would seem trivial to also recognize that the applicant is not /pro se/, either from the ADS (as Dan F suggests) or from the presence of a Customer Number in an address field. 

(Am I giving the PTO too much credit?  Do they send Welcome Letter TWO even upon first actions that do not reject any claims?) 

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