[Patentpractice] [Patentcenter] [External Sender] why do uspto programmers design inefficiency into the system?

[Erin Geraghty]

Yep!  I really had to bite my tongue.

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Subject: RE: [Patentcenter] [External Sender] why do uspto programmers design inefficiency into the system?

Erin, they told me the same thing when I’d asked about assignments not appearing in the reel/frame (or other) search.  I’m paraphrasing, but the response was something like, “if you received a notice of recordation with a reel/frame number, it’s been recorded.  It doesn’t matter that the public can’t see it.”

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Subject: Re: [Patentcenter] [External Sender] why do uspto programmers design inefficiency into the system?

Unfortunately, sometimes it is not even in assignment center, even when you have the NORA in hand.  I called and asked about this a few months ago, and they said yes, it happens sometimes and not to worry about it if I had the NORA. I tried to explain that this is problematic, and they didn’t want to hear it.

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Subject: [External Sender][Patentcenter] why do uspto programmers design inefficiency into the system?


I'm logged into patentcenter, looking at one of my cases, and I want to see the assignment information they have on record.  When I click on "assignments", I get a pop-up window saying, "Patent Center only displays assignment information for non-public applications to user authorized to access the application. This application is open to the public. Please use Assignment Search to search assignment information for applications open to the public. https://assignment.uspto.gov/patent/index.html#/patent/search<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gcfagjf.r.af.d.sendibt2.com_tr_cl_qDWCtG6Wkuj28lFflftt9fYKtX2z96paJyy5tBrZvk-5FYJhRx4Qh9vKGxxyc3LRKcjW74-2DRNf1AFgNTKkb409cfhtSSU-2D4Ds6XOd1fu8sWKIj66IrcOcYb000tHuDTUQDfsgDZ1AiLPudI0Ds4dqOaYBU-5FailyaKcm5YAeacDbrIxl4a3Qjdy8C-5FD0dm73ETRXvsHSY-5Fllc5-2DFNFQtEPay2p5OyeOVbU48Vi0XRQVyQtbQE4wSGH2zLstmb43NK3sCncJklAmOvqUTmF4dJGYxCJ-5FErYyltcj93VAYDRTqVJRxA5Hc0ErRw57EAqulljvZmxv11kdSljFssnGexs&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=laE26KlATwcl6WmS-u-lWOwRzUwWk0awqjzSi3uodMc&m=YTHllzVfwir7HUnq2TWN7Uk8bKeL4LnxYbBTXhbxitO-FIJuDw27Td3Nkhpo3O0T&s=g0Bt9YNLp1hqFtE9643Z3moxpHm1mMr-fD61Qt8Jwro&e=>".

Inasmuch as from within patentcrapper, I can see the assignment info for my unpublished applications, it's clear that whoever wrote the notice was trying to say, "The application you're looking at has published, so we're not making assignment information available to you in Patent Crapper, go to Assignment Center, nyeah nyeah nyeah."

Quite a contrast from what we saw earlier in the week with Mike Richardson and WIPO regarding the applicant email field in ePCT...

Dan
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