[Patentpractice] Office action made final despite new grounds of rejection
Timothy Snowden
tdsnowden at outlook.com
Fri Sep 12 19:17:07 UTC 2025
re: bonus question - what art unit? Software is much more likely to take
>2 rounds as the issues develop, especially if you have to overcome 103
then 101. Depending on the examiner, 101 itself can take 2+ rounds to
develop the issues, now matter how much you're gunning for 1 response
and done.
Regardless, I often get allowances after final even in mechanical arts.
Often the examiner found something else or thought of another
interpretation, and you need a couple minor adjustments (argument and/or
amendment) to respond to that before you can get allowance.
On 9/12/2025 1:21 PM, Justin Miller via Patentpractice wrote:
> All,
>
> I am working on a utility patent application for a medical device.
> Received a first office action with prior art rejections. I made minor
> claim amendments, had an interview with the examiner, who stated that
> the application appeared allowable.
>
> But I just received a final office action based on new prior art
> references.
>
> In the final office action, the examiner states that the action is
> properly final because the new grounds of rejection were necessitated
> by the amendments. That seems to be a stretch to me.
>
> Has anyone had any luck contesting finality? I have read MPEP
> 706.07(a)
> <https://mpep.uspto.gov/RDMS/MPEP/current#/current/d0e69118.html>, but
> it seems unclear as to when the new ground of rejection is
> "necessitated by applicant’s amendment of the claims".
>
> My suspicion is that while it is possible to fight the finality of the
> office action, it is probably cheaper to file an RCE.
>
> As the bonus question, I welcome any strategies when receiving a final
> office action. In my experience, when I receive two rejections from
> the same examiner, given that I always participate in an interview, it
> is often either time to abandon or appeal. But given that this
> rejection is substantively different I think a round of negotiation
> might be helpful. Perhaps I can squeeze in another interview before I
> respond.
>
> Interesting stats (page is slow to load):
> https://www.bipc.com/us-patent-practice-responding-to-final-rejections-so-as-to-minimize-the-need-for-rce-filings
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> Sincerely,
> Justin P. Miller
> Patent Attorney
> Distinct Patent Law
> https://distinctpatentlaw.com/
> Office: 727.513.4590
>
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