[Patentcenter] ePetition Request for Withdrawal as Attorney or Agent of Record STILL not working

J Meng Nakagawa PhD 孟琤 博士 jmeng at ipatentapplication.com
Tue May 14 23:10:33 EDT 2024


Even though my aia0083 was granted, something is definitely amiss. I 
actually received two letters (via snail mail) after 3 weeks. One is 
"Notice of Acceptance of Power of Attorney", saying "The Power of 
Attorney in this application is accepted...",which I did not file for 
obvious reasons. The other is "Notice Regarding Change of Power of 
Attorney", saying "The withdrawal as attorney in this application has 
been accepted..." The case was removed from my docket when I log in.

I am not sure it is a bug sort to speak. It felt like some policy/rule 
changed. Before the new version comes out, it is simply removed from 
Patent Center. Whoever is carrying out actual executions in the 
background appears to be doing stuff he/she is not quite sure of. I 
would expect the USPTO to make a very public announcement on this type 
of changes.

Jeanette Nakagawa

ps: aia0083 does have an email entry right after telephone. I used the 
form good through 09/30/2025.


Regards
_______
Jeanette Meng Nakagawa Ph.D
US Patent Agent / Reg #: 67,745
孟琤 博士 美国专利代理人
http://www.ipatentapplication.com
Tel: +1 858-666-8258 (中英文)

On 5/14/24 5:29 PM, Sharon Rubin via Patentcenter wrote:
>
> I initiated this thread in December.  After we were unable to file the 
> ePetition, I filed the aia0083, and one month later received a “Notice 
> Regarding Power of Attorney” saying “the power of attorney in this 
> application is not accepted because there is no alternate 
> correspondence address, either in the application file or the 
> request.  Please provide a correspondence address to which further 
> correspondence can be directed.”
>
> Of course, I hadn’t actually filed a power of attorney.  I had filed a 
> “*REQUEST FOR WITHDRAWAL AS ATTORNEY OR AGENT AND CHANGE OF 
> CORRESPONDENCE ADDRESS”*which is a petition. **And naturally I had 
> provided the applicant’s address for further correspondence.  So the 
> notice made no sense.
>
> I called the Office of Data Management, and the explanation was that 
> the applicant address I had put down was not the address on the ADS 
> (the applicant had moved.)  So in order to withdraw as Attorney of 
> Agent of Record, we would need to file a corrected ADS and obtain a 
> corrected filing receipt. So we would need to spend even more 
> unremunerated time to file a petition to withdraw from a case which we 
> are withdrawing from because the client lacks the funds to continue.
>
> As you know, when one previously withdrew using the ePetition, none of 
> this was necessary.  The attorney certified to which address mail 
> should be forwarded, and withdrawal was immediate.  If it was good 
> enough then, why is it different if you are uploading the paper 
> petition?  (The ePetition also had a place to list an email address 
> for the applicant, which the aia0083 lacks.)
>
> *Sharon Rubin*
>
> *From:*Patentcenter <patentcenter-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On 
> Behalf Of *J Meng Nakagawa PhD ?? ?? via Patentcenter
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 14, 2024 5:05 PM
> *To:* For bug reports, feature requests, and tips and tricks about 
> Patent Center. <patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com>
> *Cc:* J Meng Nakagawa PhD 孟琤博士<jmeng at ipatentapplication.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Patentcenter] ePetition Request for Withdrawal as 
> Attorney or Agent of Record STILL not working
>
> Hi Bruce, I couldn't find it either and just filed aia0083.pdf via 
> Patent Center on Apr 5, 2024, and received paper grant on Apr 29, in 
> snail mail. I didn't receive any electronic notification. After I 
> received the paper grant, I can see it via Patent Center since the 
> case is published. I guess one way to keep checking is to log in and 
> see if it has been removed from your docket.
>
> Jeanette Nakagawa
>
> Regards
> _______
> Jeanette Meng Nakagawa Ph.D
> US Patent Agent / Reg #: 67,745
> 孟琤  博士  美国专利代理人
> http://www.ipatentapplication.com
> Tel: +1 858-666-8258(中英文)
>
> On 5/14/24 3:56 PM, Bruce Young via Patentcenter wrote:
>
>     I went looking for the ePetition to Withdraw as Attorney of Agent
>     of Record and I cannot find it at all in Patent Center. Am I just
>     blind or has it disappeared.
>
>     From the Home page, I click on the petitions icon and get three
>     columns, “PETITIONS-PENDING,” “PETITIONS-ALLOWED,” and
>     “PETITIONS-ISSUED”
>
>     Under PETITIONS-PENDING there are only 2 options listed: “Petition
>     to make special based on age” and “Petition for Revival of
>     Abandoned Patent Application….”
>
>     When I click on the Petitions pull-down menu, I get the same options.
>
>     NO ePetition to withdraw as Agent.
>
>     Nothing under Existing Submissions that is remotely related either.
>
>     I found the thread from January which talked about it not working
>     properly, but I cannot even find the ePetition at all, which
>     doesn’t seem like the issue that was happening in January.
>
>     Is that ePetition just GONE from Patent Center?
>
>     -Bruce Young
>
>     (712) 541-9822
>
>     *From:*Patentcenter <patentcenter-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com>
>     <mailto:patentcenter-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On Behalf Of
>     *Sharon Rubin via Patentcenter
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, January 3, 2024 5:47 PM
>     *To:* For bug reports, feature requests, and tips and tricks about
>     Patent Center. <patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com>
>     <mailto:patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com>
>     *Cc:* Sharon Rubin <Sharon at gjip.com> <mailto:Sharon at gjip.com>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Patentcenter] ePetition Request for Withdrawal as
>     Attorney or Agent of Record STILL not working
>
>     It’s now > 2 weeks later, and the auto-granted ePetition to
>     Withdraw as Attorney is still not working (yes, we have a POA on
>     file.)  At least EBC admits that it is a known problem with no
>     current solution.  (So we will have to spend even more
>     unremunerated time to file a petition to withdraw from a case
>     which we are withdrawing from because the client lacks the funds
>     to continue.)
>
>     I’m a little surprised that no one else on this listserv has
>     mentioned this issue.
>
>     *Sharon Rubin*
>
>     *From:*Patentcenter <patentcenter-bounces at oppedahl-lists.com> *On
>     Behalf Of *Sharon Rubin via Patentcenter
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, December 19, 2023 5:54 AM
>     *To:* patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com
>     *Cc:* Sharon Rubin <Sharon at gjip.com>
>     *Subject:* [Patentcenter] ePetition Request for Withdrawal as
>     Attorney or Agent of Record not working
>
>     We have been attempting to file an ePetition Request for
>     Withdrawal as Attorney or Agent of Record pursuant to 37 CFR 1.36
>     since last Thursday.  (We have a recognized POA on file.)
>
>     We have tried in Chrome, Firefox and Edge.  After completing the
>     form, the attorney can insert the signature in the signature box,
>     but there are no boxes below “First name”,  “Last name” and
>     “Registration number” to fill in, which is likely why nothing
>     happens when  the “Continue” box is pressed.
>
>     *A screen shot of a computer Description automatically generated*
>
>     **
>
>     We have discussed the situation twice with EBC, which escalated
>     the request last Thursday, but still has no answer as to why this
>     is happening.  Today’s agent was aware of one other person who had
>     reported the same problem.  I presume that we can upload, mail or
>     fax a petition to withdraw and wait a few months for it to be
>     granted, but we’d like to be relieved ASAP.
>
>     Has anyone else successfully used an ePetition in Patent Center to
>     withdraw as attorney recently?  Has anyone had the same problem we
>     are experiencing and figured out a solution?  (Needless to say, we
>     never had a problem with this in EFS-Web.)
>
>     Sharon Rubin
>
>
>
>
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