[Patentcenter] constant browser refreshes> (was Patent Center is broken?)

Tue Oct 8 17:30:59 UTC 2024

What competent programmer codes so that there could be a sensitivity to
dialect of English?  That's house-of-cards programming.

Just relying on my gut feel as a programmer from all those years ago -- I
agree with (what I infer Carl's view to be) -- this is grasping at straws,
looking where the light is good not where the keys are lost, unlikely to
have anything to do with it.  I can't say for sure, but this looks like a
wild goose chase.

And if that's really the disease, the treatment doesn't make sense.  The
PTO has limited recognition admits in Canada, U.K., India, etc.  How can it
be that their native dialect of English isn't accepted?  And that it's been
fine for ten years, and suddenly goes bad on one day in October?   The
Paperwork Reduction Act requires an agency information collection
activities to be "implemented in ways consistent and compatible, to the
maximum extent practicable, with the existing reporting and recordkeeping
practices of those who are to respond."  The PTO doesn't have authority to
say "You can't use Firefox" or "You have to set your browser settings in a
way that messes up 98% of your work."

On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 11:04 AM Carl Oppedahl via Patentcenter <
patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:

> Thank you very much for posting this.
>
> But what's annoying is the cluelessness of the USPTO people on this.  My
> browser settings are never anything other than American English.  And yet
> I, too, encounter the programming mistake that leads to constant browser
> refreshes.
> On 10/8/2024 8:32 AM, James Katz via Patentcenter wrote:
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> See
> https://www.uspto.gov/system-status/20241007-patent-center-constant-browser-refresh-issue-due-browser-language-setting
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> Not working for me in edge, even after i clear cookies. It did work in a
> private browsing window in opera. Who uses opera?
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> On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 4:46 PM Dale Quisenberry via Patentcenter <
> patentcenter at oppedahl-lists.com> wrote:
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> It is still not working for me.  You?
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> *Subject: *[Patentcenter] Patent Center is broken?
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> I am trying to make use of Patent Center just now (4:10 AM ET). No joy.
> It is impossible to do anything at Patent Center just now.  It appears
> as a blank screen.
>
> If I do a "view source" on the blank screen, I learn that the USPTO
> system did actually serve up fifteen thousand characters of HTML, that
> get rendered only as whitespace.
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> Predictably, there is no mention of this outage at
> https://www.uspto.gov/system-status
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> I tried entering Patent Center "sideways", you know, by going and
> logging in at MyUSPTO and then clicking around to try to get into Patent
> Center.  Nope.  Same blank screen.
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> In my logged-in status, I am able to see normal-looking screens in
> Financial Manager and Ass Center and MyUSPTO.  But again and again,
> nothing from Patent Center other than a blank screen.
>
> Oops.  Now after a dozen tries, Patent Center is rendering with visible
> material on the screen.  But it's the "jumpy" Patent Center, the one
> that waits until I have uploaded a document or two, maybe selected a fee
> to pay, and then at a time when I do not have my fingers on the keyboard
> or hand on a mouse, Patent Center jumps to its main action screen and my
> e-filing session has disappeared.  The function that is meant to be a
> successor to EFS-Web is flaky right now.
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